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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:19 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Very sorry to hear that MR. Are you at least OK today regarding your health? Hope so...

You shouldn't have done that my friend. You 've just fallen in the trap of inventing a "God" from mere fear of death. Death, danger, risk, fear etc, are things implanted to all living beings (by the ultimate cause of everything which I call God) not for crying and begging him for help, but to self sustain ourselves.
While I do beleive God exists, i would never fall in this trap, which is actually the foundation of all religions. We simply don't know the properties of God, and it's at least stupid to beleive what the various religions say.
We (my self included) will one day die. I just hope I will not panic when the time comes and start begging to God like everyone else. I know my coming to this world was actually asked by me before I was born. Well, I came to this world, seen it, experienced it, I refuse to come to such a world ever again.

if you are refering to birth I agree with you but if you are refering to conception anything is possible. It may have even been an accident. You have to ask your mother for the answer to that one. Particularly who was it that wanted the a child, mother. There are 4 choices.
1. Both
2. Mother
3. Father
4. Neither
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Re: Is there god

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:29 pm

Kikapu wrote:Aside from the ultra radical religious people and most Trump’s nutcase supporters whose lives revolve around god, I don’t think the rest of us spend too much time trying to analyze what god is or isn’t really because it doesn’t matter. When things goes well some may thank god for their good fortunes and if ones life is in the toilet, then god gets some of the blame too. :D


I think it does matter Kiks. Because if you won't use your logic to at least conclude there is an ultimate cause of everything which we call God, how are you going to ever get a clue of the reason behind your own existence? Your existence and the existence of God (whose properties we don't know) are clearly interconnected. How exactly, we don't know, but it's better to hypothesise than decline any reason.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:01 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Very sorry to hear that MR. Are you at least OK today regarding your health? Hope so...

You shouldn't have done that my friend. You 've just fallen in the trap of inventing a "God" from mere fear of death. Death, danger, risk, fear etc, are things implanted to all living beings (by the ultimate cause of everything which I call God) not for crying and begging him for help, but to self sustain ourselves.
While I do beleive God exists, i would never fall in this trap, which is actually the foundation of all religions. We simply don't know the properties of God, and it's at least stupid to beleive what the various religions say.
We (my self included) will one day die. I just hope I will not panic when the time comes and start begging to God like everyone else. I know my coming to this world was actually asked by me before I was born. Well, I came to this world, seen it, experienced it, I refuse to come to such a world ever again.

if you are refering to birth I agree with you but if you are refering to conception anything is possible. It may have even been an accident. You have to ask your mother for the answer to that one. Particularly who was it that wanted the a child, mother. There are 4 choices.
1. Both
2. Mother
3. Father
4. Neither


Wanting to come to life as a human pre-exists the conception. Parents don't matter, the whole issue is about the kind of journey in life you are willing to accept.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:52 pm

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Kikapu wrote:Aside from the ultra radical religious people and most Trump’s nutcase supporters whose lives revolve around god, I don’t think the rest of us spend too much time trying to analyze what god is or isn’t really because it doesn’t matter. When things goes well some may thank god for their good fortunes and if ones life is in the toilet, then god gets some of the blame too. :D


I think it does matter Kiks. Because if you won't use your logic to at least conclude there is an ultimate cause of everything which we call God, how are you going to ever get a clue of the reason behind your own existence? Your existence and the existence of God (whose properties we don't know) are clearly interconnected. How exactly, we don't know, but it's better to hypothesise than decline any reason.



Here’s the thing Pyro. What matters is how one accepts god into their lives or not. It is a personal acceptance or rejection of god. Trying to analyze all aspects of god only leads to more question to be asked where answers are very few in coming for those who are non believers and to the believers, ALL the answers are there in front of their eyes. It is a losing proposition to try and convince anyone that their side is the right answer. I personally do not live my life with god and nor do I reject god in my life. Many times in my life I have thanked god when I needed to thank god. Most of the time my life is not conscious of god being there in my life. I think god likes that, so not to be burdened with a lot of the things I can self manage. :wink:

Yes, you are correct that there is an ultimate cause for everything which some call it god and others call it “time”. Time has a beginning and an ending of everything and there is no escaping it. Without god/time, nothing would exist.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:24 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


You said it.

God hears you man,

You are still here arent you?

but when God wants you, God wants you.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:45 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


You said it.

God hears you man,

You are still here arent you?

but when God wants you, God wants you.

So what you are saying is the 150,000 Brits and 650,000 Americans that died of Covid, your god did not want them to live.

This reminds me of Glen Hoddle who was the england manager and said that a disabled man must have done something wrong in his [ast life which is why he is suffering now. Naturally he lost hios job and cound not get another managerial job anywjere else.

It is a retarded way of thining about god and you are not far behind him saying what you just said.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:49 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Very sorry to hear that MR. Are you at least OK today regarding your health? Hope so...

You shouldn't have done that my friend. You 've just fallen in the trap of inventing a "God" from mere fear of death. Death, danger, risk, fear etc, are things implanted to all living beings (by the ultimate cause of everything which I call God) not for crying and begging him for help, but to self sustain ourselves.
While I do beleive God exists, i would never fall in this trap, which is actually the foundation of all religions. We simply don't know the properties of God, and it's at least stupid to beleive what the various religions say.
We (my self included) will one day die. I just hope I will not panic when the time comes and start begging to God like everyone else. I know my coming to this world was actually asked by me before I was born. Well, I came to this world, seen it, experienced it, I refuse to come to such a world ever again.

if you are refering to birth I agree with you but if you are refering to conception anything is possible. It may have even been an accident. You have to ask your mother for the answer to that one. Particularly who was it that wanted the a child, mother. There are 4 choices.
1. Both
2. Mother
3. Father
4. Neither


Wanting to come to life as a human pre-exists the conception. Parents don't matter, the whole issue is about the kind of journey in life you are willing to accept.

woow there cowboy hang on just one god damn minute.

First of all you need to understand how babies are concieved and secondly in life very few people choose which journey to go on. Some very lucky people manage to do exactly as they wished but most people and I mean about 99% do not. Their journey is dictated to them by the environment they are born in.

You explain this to a girl child born in Afghanistan today. Like hel it is a choice.

I remember when Trump came to power, Kanye saying he felt empowered by the red hat and then said slavery was a choice. Like hell it was.
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Re: Is there god

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:47 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Very sorry to hear that MR. Are you at least OK today regarding your health? Hope so...

You shouldn't have done that my friend. You 've just fallen in the trap of inventing a "God" from mere fear of death. Death, danger, risk, fear etc, are things implanted to all living beings (by the ultimate cause of everything which I call God) not for crying and begging him for help, but to self sustain ourselves.
While I do beleive God exists, i would never fall in this trap, which is actually the foundation of all religions. We simply don't know the properties of God, and it's at least stupid to beleive what the various religions say.
We (my self included) will one day die. I just hope I will not panic when the time comes and start begging to God like everyone else. I know my coming to this world was actually asked by me before I was born. Well, I came to this world, seen it, experienced it, I refuse to come to such a world ever again.


Hi Pyrpolizer, Thank you for your well wishes. I'm OK in that I'm recovering from Covid-19 and it will take time. I didn't need another complication like pneumonia while suffering with Covid. My lungs are extensively damaged so I get breathless even with the most basic of tasks. I can't fly and I walk with a Zimmerframe most times. I can walk without any walking aid at home but I'm not in any state to walk in public.

I must point out that I don't fear death, I honestly mean that hand on heart. Me asking God to keep me alive was just what we as humans are programmed to do, Lordo pointed this out and I couldn't agree more. Just like I asked God to keep me alive I must have asked twice as much to take my life, he did neither. I have no problem with believers, it's their choice. I do have a problem though if you try and force me to believe this fairytale too.
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Re: Is there god

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:05 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:Look guys. A while back I posted that I was hospitalised for 4 months and 8 days after contracting Covid-19. That was a life changing experience for me and am still on a long road to recovery. 3 weeks ago I was hospitalised again this time with pneumonia. I spent a week in ICU and a father 3 days in a normal ward. I have had a horrible year and must have begged God a thousand times for me to survive the whole time I was in ICU. I begged God to keep me alive for the benefit of my family. I begged God for pain relief. I did all this even though I don't don't believe in God.

My conclusion on the subject is this. If there is a God, he is a fucking no good for nothing, useless cunt :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


You said it.

God hears you man,

You are still here arent you?

but when God wants you, God wants you.


I hope I'm proven wrong some day Max :wink: As I said to Pyro, if I asked God to spare my life a thousand times I must have asked him to take my life at least two thousand times. I know there are people who suffered much more than me as a result of contracting Covid-19 but I fucking suffered to the extent that I no longer wanted to live.

I have about a 1000 pages of my medical records between the 25h of January, when I was admitted, to the 4th June when I was discharged from hospital. I managed to read it the 30th of March when at 20.35 I suffered cardiac arrest and was resuscitated back to life. I have put the file away and have no plans of reading on because the pages I've read to date have been devastating for me, made me shed many tears. The thing that devastated me more than anything was how my my wife, my daughter, my son all the way from America relentlessly contacting the hospital and talking to doctors for an update on my condition. No visits were allowed until March my wife tells me. Poor things were petrified I was going to die from this awful virus and all this while I was in deep sleep. I only found out what was going on on the 14th of April. So my family suffered far more than me. Anyway, enough of my health issues, sorry if I went on a bit guys.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:21 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Here’s the thing Pyro. What matters is how one accepts god into their lives or not. It is a personal acceptance or rejection of god. Trying to analyze all aspects of god only leads to more question to be asked where answers are very few in coming for those who are non believers and to the believers, ALL the answers are there in front of their eyes. It is a losing proposition to try and convince anyone that their side is the right answer. I personally do not live my life with god and nor do I reject god in my life. Many times in my life I have thanked god when I needed to thank god. Most of the time my life is not conscious of god being there in my life. I think god likes that, so not to be burdened with a lot of the things I can self manage. :wink:

I mostly agree with you Kiks. I am also convinced God does not interfere in any way in peoples lives.

Yes, you are correct that there is an ultimate cause for everything which some call it god and others call it “time”. Time has a beginning and an ending of everything and there is no escaping it. Without god/time, nothing would exist.

I am confused here. "Time" is a human attribute. As Einstein puts it time and space are modes by
which we think, and not conditions in which we live. Can you explain how "time" could have the same meaning to some people as the meaning of God to others?

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