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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:30 am

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Robin Hood wrote:This is for those that do not know the background to the Ukraine war ....... he lives in Kharkiv and is married to a Ukrainian

The Ukraine Conflict — A Primer (Gonzalo Lira)

https://thesaker.is/the-ukraine-conflict-a-primer-gonzalo-lira/


and up-to-date and looking forward ......



Excellent video presentation by Gonzalo Lira. I thought I knew everything, but I actually didn't know the background story behind Crimea, more so of it's importance.

Very informative. I felt it was just Economic but this also has the military aspect.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:05 am



...at least he's not screaming so loud in this one, (despite the shill).

...a very strong argument.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:48 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:This is for those that do not know the background to the Ukraine war ....... he lives in Kharkiv and is married to a Ukrainian

The Ukraine Conflict — A Primer (Gonzalo Lira)

https://thesaker.is/the-ukraine-conflict-a-primer-gonzalo-lira/


and up-to-date and looking forward ......



...what a mess eh?

...but the origins of this war occurs much before Maidan; it is (still) about Russia's desires to maintain hegemony over natural resources, (and "Russia's" corruption in the Ukraine).


I'm sorry but I don't agree with you. Russia has all the resources it needs and all the land it needs but, what it wants to do is to stop the US from stealing it and using the USD dominated International Banking system to break the country into bite-sized-chunks.

I agree it DID start before Maidan, in fact it goes back to the 1990's. But the US planned coup in 2014 using Maidan (and that is proven) is what really started the trouble.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:45 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:This is for those that do not know the background to the Ukraine war ....... he lives in Kharkiv and is married to a Ukrainian

The Ukraine Conflict — A Primer (Gonzalo Lira)

https://thesaker.is/the-ukraine-conflict-a-primer-gonzalo-lira/


and up-to-date and looking forward ......



...what a mess eh?

...but the origins of this war occurs much before Maidan; it is (still) about Russia's desires to maintain hegemony over natural resources, (and "Russia's" corruption in the Ukraine).


Really?? You can't be serious! Russia has so many natural resources that can flood the whole world. Putin himself offered to provide the poor nations of Africa with free wheat.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:47 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:This is for those that do not know the background to the Ukraine war ....... he lives in Kharkiv and is married to a Ukrainian

The Ukraine Conflict — A Primer (Gonzalo Lira)

https://thesaker.is/the-ukraine-conflict-a-primer-gonzalo-lira/


and up-to-date and looking forward ......



...what a mess eh?

...but the origins of this war occurs much before Maidan; it is (still) about Russia's desires to maintain hegemony over natural resources, (and "Russia's" corruption in the Ukraine).

RW have you forgotten how the Russians refused to sell cheap gas to Ukraine and forced them to buy it from the open market. There was no issue with Ukraine and Russia till they refused to sign the Minsk agreement and the coup which replaced the elected President. Add to that their declaration to join Nato. There is the cause of this war.

But do I hear my Swine friend LR claim the Ukraine has the right to join Nato if they so wish? I say stop talking 2 year-old politics and start talking mature politics. Ukraine is no more allowed to have Nato forces than Cuba was allowed to have Russian missiles by the Americans of all people. That freedom loving cunts over there accross the water as it were. This also clarifies for him who exactly is responsible for the civilians being killed before the February and since then too in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:44 pm

The yanks are relentless looking for the next war. Now it is China's turn to be aggravated which suggests to me that they have given up on Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-64479712
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:26 pm



...of course, it's propaganda; still worth taking a look.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:31 pm

...Ukraine (should) may join, and in my opinion so too Russia; NATO's mission may change ("Russia"/Russia too): piracy, and other matters that put International Trade at risk are a threat where NATO serves well.

...indeed, China has demonstrated their own contempt toward a transparent approach in social (and political) - economics: as such they are a hostile player, and willful in their acts like "Them".

I remind you Lordo, that preparing for War is the best way to be prepared to negotiate for Peace.

...one hopes that cooler heads prevail.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:05 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...Ukraine (should) may join, and in my opinion so too Russia; NATO's mission may change ("Russia"/Russia too): piracy, and other matters that put International Trade at risk are a threat where NATO serves well.

...indeed, China has demonstrated their own contempt toward a transparent approach in social (and political) - economics: as such they are a hostile player, and willful in their acts like "Them".

I remind you Lordo, that preparing for War is the best way to be prepared to negotiate for Peace.

...one hopes that cooler heads prevail.

He has bot mentioned peace once. He will drive the Russians out he claims. He and the Ukrainians are in for a nasty shock soon when Americans turn around and tail it out like they did in Afghanistan.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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