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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:13 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:54 pm

Here’s something for all those who have wet dreams of Russia’s defeat in Ukraine! :wink:

Even Paphitis might come back hearing this in what Douglas Macgregor says. :wink:

All hopes are lost for Russia now! :shock:

(What will the sour grapes sore losers will think of next? :D)


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:17 pm

Sour grapes? :?

I don't think Russia will be defeated in Ukraine and never have. In fact, for quite a while I was expressing the view Ukraine's fate was probably inevitable, given the numbers involved.

As I've said a few times of late though we are over 20 months into this aborted Russian blitzkrieg effort and it all seems nowadays to basically be about - in essence - a stalemate situation.

I find Macgregor and Ritter's efforts pretty unimpressive TBH. Listening to Mac, reading from a 15 minute script, after all I've heard from the man over the past year, doesn't cut much ice. I note though his unusually frank admissions about the so-called "Stormy" units (fundamentally, convicts thrown in at the deep end - how desperate is that? ) with surprise. Just a year or so ago the man was ecstatically announcing that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was one of the greatest military victories in history. :eyecrazy:

I suspect you'd give somebody like Petraeus similar short shrift. Although, his military experience (which apparently is why team Russia give Mac and Ritter so much credit - they've escaped the robotically programming fate of every other member of the Armed Forces) far exceeds that of the terrible twins.

Whatever the outcome, this war has fundamentally changed Russia's standing in the world. Nothing will be the same again - certainly in our life times. Any questions of trust or reliability have evaporated.

This week we see a picture of Putin with leaders from Hamas and Iran and it struck me that if only chubby chops were standing there grinning with them it would be the complete set. Titled: desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel,
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:21 pm

Kikapu wrote:Here’s something for all those who have wet dreams of Russia’s defeat in Ukraine! :wink:

Even Paphitis might come back hearing this in what Douglas Macgregor says. :wink:

All hopes are lost for Russia now! :shock:

(What will the sour grapes sore losers will think of next? :D)



WOW ......Cyprus Grump and LR will fall for this .... it's right up their street! :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacGregor is obviously taking his cough syrup! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:31 pm

Robin Hood wrote:WOW ......Cyprus Grump and LR will fall for this .... it's right up their street! :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacGregor is obviously taking his cough syrup! :wink:


And you wasted all that time Googling sponge bombs, adding yet another subject to your expert category list, when it actually wasn't mentioned in the post you were responding to? What's that you said about "Dumbo"? No - you don't of course do abuse or sarcasm.

Shock! Horror, though! Does that mean - sit down everybody, hold onto something - you ......................................... made a mistake? :shock:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:10 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:WOW ......Cyprus Grump and LR will fall for this .... it's right up their street! :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacGregor is obviously taking his cough syrup! :wink:


And you wasted all that time Googling sponge bombs, adding yet another subject to your expert category list, when it actually wasn't mentioned in the post you were responding to? What's that you said about "Dumbo"? No - you don't of course do abuse or sarcasm.

Shock! Horror, though! Does that mean - sit down everybody, hold onto something - you ......................................... made a mistake? :shock:

Another Dumbo with nothing to say! :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:11 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Here’s something for all those who have wet dreams of Russia’s defeat in Ukraine! :wink:

Even Paphitis might come back hearing this in what Douglas Macgregor says. :wink:

All hopes are lost for Russia now! :shock:

(What will the sour grapes sore losers will think of next? :D)



WOW ......Cyprus Grump and LR will fall for this .... it's right up their street! :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacGregor is obviously taking his cough syrup! :wink:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, I too want the same cough syrup for my next sore throat! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Here’s something for all those who have wet dreams of Russia’s defeat in Ukraine! :wink:

Even Paphitis might come back hearing this in what Douglas Macgregor says. :wink:

All hopes are lost for Russia now! :shock:

(What will the sour grapes sore losers will think of next? :D)



WOW ......Cyprus Grump and LR will fall for this .... it's right up their street! :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacGregor is obviously taking his cough syrup! :wink:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, I too want the same cough syrup for my next sore throat! :wink:

ehem ehem.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:47 pm

AI's used a lot these days. There's no shortage of Putin expressing deep regrets nor Obama explaining his sympathy for................................. fill in the blank. Except, sadly, a lot of that's true.

Nevertheless, Russia's "Storm-Z" penal units are a fact. As is Macgregor and Ritter's penchant for money-spinning BS. There are umpteen link references, if you have an interest - which I doubt.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:51 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Londonrake ........
March 2014. Russian troops move into Crimea and annex it. This is met with much popular acclaim in Russia. The West largely ignore it.

In your version maybe but in the real world: There were 18.000 Russian military personnel in Crimea in 2014 out of the 25.000 allowed for in the Treaty made with the elected Government of Ukraine ...... so they did not ‘move in’ (invade?) they were already there and legally !



That's absurd. Which isn't of course new territory :D . Crimea was part of Ukraine. In Feb 2014 Russia invaded and seized it, declaring it part of the Motherland. Are you arguing that Ukraine donated it? Or, that the presence of Russian forces, as part of a mutual agreement, meant it was OK to seize the Crimea? :? If you have a problem you can easily "research" it, and you will find that both Putin and Shoigu later admitted that the "little green men" were sent in to seize the place.

I know how you love links. Although, whilst you expect others to accept them, from any of your "independent" sites you invariably reject them when they disagree with your views:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_o ... remists%22.

Were your ridiculous interpretation true then it would surely be the case that if British troops were to pour out of the SBAs and seize Cyprus it couldn't of course be an invasion. They were already there.

Robin Hood wrote:A US instigated coup in Kyiv in 2014 prior to Crimea’s ‘annexation’, put an extremist right wing anti-Russian, US selected government in power in Kyiv. Within 24 hours Yatsenyuk (The US’s chosen man) threatened both the Crimean’s and the Russian’s. Crimea being an independent autonomous self governing region had a referendum where 97% of the population voted to leave the Ukraine and become independent. Russian troops locked down the Ukraine military ..... they even let them keep their weapons, and transported those that wanted to return back to Ukraine. Apparently very few took up the offer and decided to stay in Crimea or go on to join the Russian Forces.


That's not what happened.

Putin's annexation of Crimea was met with much acclaim from the Russian people. Why not, it was bloodless, costless and as such proved popular. Well, much like the Anschluss.

Your talk of a US inspired "coup" earlier in Ukraine is BS. Knowing how the people of Poland and Romania were prospering in the EU the Ukrainian people and its parliament voted overwhelmingly for a political association and free trade agreement. Yanyukovich nevertheless made the unilateral decision to ignore it in favour of a closer relationship with Russia. The man was basically just another brown envelope Lukashenko, living in palatial splendour. He got ousted. Seeing how things were heading - and with an eye to Sevastopol (which is what it was all really about) - provoked the Russian move on Crimea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

Robin Hood wrote:Why do you always have to tell lies?


You have a perspective problem. If you're confused it's on "RH Problems" - page 2.

A short while ago I posted a list of the slurs you'd used responding to me in quite a short while. You know "drunk/liar ...................etc" . You seem to have this victimhood issue. You can't see just how much offense you yourself dish out. Not just the adjectives but, more importantly actually, the tone. I would urge you to curb it. I don't know what else I can say. I can keep you awake at night. It isn't reciprocal.
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