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[Lordo]

All of a sudden I can smell bullshit all over. Which SwineCunt has stepped on it. Fess up and go wash your shoes properly.

Lets face it this is exactly how the west operates all over world. The Americans have given old weapons to Ukraine which they value to be about 60 billion and demand mineral resources worth 500 billion. Ain't that nice of them first to push Ukraine into war and then stealing all their resources in the process.

Ironically old weapons are normally scrapped and they should have paid Ukraine for scrapping that shit.

[Londonrake]

All of a sudden I can smell bullshit all over. Which SwineCunt has stepped on it. Fess up and go wash your shoes properly.

If you didn’t keep posting juvenile stuff like that, and actually read up on issues - rather than skimming links from the MSM news portal and adding you’re own comments - you might just be taken seriously. Moreover, with a bit less verbosity and a touch of seriousness - who knows? It might even help kickstart this nowadays zombie forum back to a semblance. But, do you really care? Or, have things gotten to where you always wanted? Posting your thoughts without the annoyance of other people’s opinions?

At the time, the departure of such diverse posters as Paphitis and GR gave a pretty good idea of what was coming.

[Lordo]

Tramp's behaviour is very predictable. He never forgave the Ukrainians for not investigating Hunter Biden before the previous election. He holds grudges. He also does not like being criticized. Just like a two year old really.

So he Europeans are in for a shock. It is time to tell the Yanks to pack their bags and head back home. Holiday is over. We do not need them and we never did. Any help they gave they took back double and more in return.

[Londonrake]

Tramp's behaviour is very predictable. He never forgave the Ukrainians for not investigating Hunter Biden before the previous election. He holds grudges. He also does not like being criticized. Just like a two year old really.

So he Europeans are in for a shock. It is time to tell the Yanks to pack their bags and head back home. Holiday is over. We do not need them and we never did. Any help they gave they took back double and more in return.

No! Trump is and always has been unpredictable. Which is why, the assertion Putin’s invasion of Ukraine would never have taken place if the Don had been President rings true. Biden’s weakness, allied to the Democrat’s inherent reluctance for involvement in foreign conflicts (Obama’s farcical Syrian “red lines”) presented Putin with a clear window of opportunity - which he exploited.

Where things will go now - who the fuck knows? Who are Trump’s friends/Allies these days? Personally, I have no idea how things are going to turn out. I imagine Mr Putin/chubby chops/Khameini/Jinping have the same problem.

[Lordo]

There is an old saying in Cyprus, "You can take the donkey to the water but you cannot make it drink.".

I did not realise it also applied to SwineCunts.

Sadly, while Trump may be erratic and chaotic in how he is rolling out his agendas, at the strategic level he is doing pretty much exactly what he promised. His approach to the war in Ukraine, as so brutally elaborated in recent days, is entirely consistent with his past behaviours and pronouncements.

He promised a presidency of “retribution”—so European leaders cannot really be surprised at the depths of his personal hostility towards Volodymir Zelensky. After all, the Ukrainian president refused Trump’s instruction, during his first presidency, to dig the dirt on Hunter Biden. Therefore, in the Trump mind, Zelensky is no doubt to blame for his first impeachment.

Shiiiiit man I did not realise my GC MEP friend is reading my posts and informing the EU.

Mind you what else would you expect from a SwineCunt who believes that Ukrainians did not attack Russian speakers before Russia intervened. To them black is white and white is black,

https://ecfr.eu/article/europeans-face-facts-trump-is-all-too-predictable/

[Lordo]

Of course this was was started for a reason. The only benefiiaries of this war is the American Energy corporations and War Industrial complex.

The American taxes gave the aid with borrowed money and their corporation enriched themselves with no extra effort. It is nice when you can get it.

[Londonrake]

Russian “intervention”?

As always, it hinges on the starting point.

Try here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

What does any treaty Vladimir Putin’s a part of mean? Clearly, it’s worthless.

Moving on - try Putin’s 2014 annexation of Crimea, a part of the internationally recognised country of Ukraine (you know - that International law stuff you are so fond of quoting) Undertaken after the aforementioned Syrian demonstration by the Obama-twat of his clear reluctance to get involved in foreign entanglements. A good time to go for it Vlad.

Next - having gotten away with a mild wrist slapping by the west, and with a clearly senile Obama puppet moron in the WH - arming and supporting militants in the Russian speaking Ukrainian oblasts. Next “saving” them from Fascist Ukranian government abuse. For an earlier example search Hitler’s excuse for invading Poland. There’s nothing new under the sun. Apparently, from a recent post, Adolph had it right. Agree?

As far as Moldova and the Baltic states go, the above will serve as a perfect template. As always, enthusiastically supported by the usual social media useful idiots. Exercising their rights to unfettered freedom of speech. You couldn’t make it up.

[Lordo]

Mainstream media is having a field day trying to get somebody in the government to agree that Tramp is wrong in claiming Zalizmenos started the war. When in reality it was neither Zalizmenos nor Putin. The root of this war goes back to when the west arranged a coup and removed the elected president who was not pro west and did not wish to join the EU or NATO and the rest is history. And of course we the public have paid the price for it.

I have a feeling the west had a very 1974 Cypriot moment when the fanatics were either convinced themselves or were convinced by the fanatics in Greece that id they get rid of Makarios and the TCs Turkey will not be able to intervene and even if she does they would help resist any intervention. How they were wrong then and how they are wrong now.

But Tramp has opened another Pandora's box with his wish to take over Canada, Greenland and Gaza. Now every Tom Dick and Harry will want to take what ever they wish. UN has been toothless up to this point but now they will be blinded and be deafened too.

[Robin Hood]

Russian “intervention”?

As always, it hinges on the starting point.

Try here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

You have the 'starting point' .... it is not a hinge! To make sense of the whole you need a time line that includes ALL the possible starting points. The OSCE Report format is what you are aiming for as it is comprised of facts not opinions and is dated. If you go to the OSCE web site it goes right back to 2014.

What does any treaty Vladimir Putin’s a part of mean? Clearly, it’s worthless.

So the fact that Budapest failed was due to who and what event? Certainly not The Russian Federation because they only became involved in the Ukraine conflict AFTER the US orchestrated Maidan Coup.

Moving on - try Putin’s 2014 annexation of Crimea, a part of the internationally recognised country of Ukraine (you know. - that International law stuff you are so fond of quoting) Undertaken after the aforementioned Syrian demonstration by the Obama-twat of his clear reluctance to get involved in foreign entanglements. A good time to go for it Vlad

It was the US that inspired, encouraged and supported the Coup in Kiev in 2014 ...... not the Russians. It was not Russia that annexed Crimea, they were there by agreement with the ELECTED Government of Ukraine. When the coup leaders threatened to take Crimea by force the people voted 80%+ for independence from Ukraine as they were an autonomous region. The Kiev fascist mob now ruling threatened the peninsular and started moving forces toward Crimea. The Crimeans immediately voted to become an independent State within the Russian Federation. Kiev backed down and Crimea became a state within the Russian Federation ..... by the popular choice of the people.

Next - having gotten away with a mild wrist slapping by the west, and with a clearly senile Obama puppet moron in the WH - arming and supporting militants in the Russian speaking Ukrainian oblasts. Next “saving” them from Fascist Ukranian government abuse. For an earlier example search Hitler’s excuse for invading Poland. There’s nothing new under the sun. Apparently, from a recent post, Adolph had it right. Agree?

You see what happens when you just pick the hinge points that suit your argument? Throw in a bit of 'Hitler' and events of another historic and unrelated conflict ..... and you have the makings of a propaganda stew!

As far as Moldova and the Baltic states go, the above will serve as a perfect template. As always, enthusiastically supported by the usual social media useful idiots. Exercising their rights to unfettered freedom of speech. You couldn’t make it up.

Why the hell would President Putin want any more states/land ........ he has the largest country on the planet. If other countries decide they would rather be part of the Russian Federation than be part of the US Empire ..... it is their choice. If instead of spending trillions on weapons to 'defend' the UK and The EU, they actually talked trade opportunities and cooperation with the Russian Federation ....... they could all benefit! Of course the US would then have to compete on a level playing field and the US Dream would collapse because the mighty dollar would be no more be THE supreme currency that exclusively suited the US! Like Sterling before it ?

[Lordo]

I seem to remember a little ol country who wanted to join the old Soviet Union back in early 60s. It seems USA was not so big on sovereignty and freedom for a country to do as they please. In fact they are still embargoed for daring to even think it.

That is the beauty of western democracy, they love piece in fact a piece of everything.

Mind you if this was aid, unless there is a loan agreement between Ukraine and USA prior to Trump, surely Trump has not got a leg to stand on. The resemblance to what happened to the TCs is incredible. The debt never mind 20 generations, it will never be paid.

Ironically before this stupidity of wanting to join Nato, they were getting very cheap gas from the Russia as well as getting paid for gas going through their land.

Just how stupid is the establishment in Ukraine. Of course they are corrupt but how can they cause such havoc to their own people?