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[Get Real!]

Most Iranians want the Shah back.

Well that’s bloody cruel Paphitis!

When do you plan to break the news to them... that the Shah has been dead since 1980?

[Paphitis]

If you havent worked it out yet Paphitis the US, Uk and blindly followed by the EU are agitating the situation.

They want to fight Russia to the very last Ukrainian and Russia doesnt want to get drawn.

The west talk out of their backsides.

By the way. I am not saying that Russia is innocent in all of this situation.

It was the Ukraine that has wanted to approach the EU and NATO. No one forced or egged them on. In fact, both EU and NATO rejected them as both France and Germany vetoed Ukraine, presumably to not provoke Russia and cause conflict.

But it is of course Ukraine’s sovereign right to determine their own destiny and fulfil their own policies whether that includes a willingness to join the EU or NATO. If not a supporter of the EU by any means. I hate them. But I support NATO because it offers peace and stability across Europe.

The reason why I don’t like the EU is because the EU has guaranteed poverty across Cyprus and Greece for the next 100 years. How? Well because you are now in debt and that debt is real and you will be paying for it for the next 100 years with trillions worth of interest.

In other countries like the US, the debt isn’t real because the US owns the USD and issues new USD notes at will to pay its massive debt. Jin their case, it doesn’t matter what the debt is, as long as they don’t let it get to the point where they have to print so much that it will cause massive inflation. Inflation is the determining factor.

But I digress. Ukraine has the right to determine it’s future and the EU and NATO and the rest of the world has an obligation to support that right because that is a right all nations in this planet have.

And you just fuckin landed from planet Uranus boy. What the fuck gave you the idea that countries can do as they wish against American or Russian or even Chinese interests for that matter. Go shag a kangaroo boy.

What I posted is economic reality.

The USG has direct ownership of the USD and can issue bonds and notes at will within the constraints of inflation. The USG can spend as much as inflation allows it to put USD into the pockets of consumers and it can do it a number of ways.

Cyprus and Greece, thanks to the EU do not own a currency and can not decide to issue anything let alone bonds or notes. Therefore, it’s forced to tax the population, and achieve a surplus to pay some debt which it won’t do for the the next 100 years.

You would have to be bonkers to support the EU as your very rapists!

So EU is bad. NATO however had bought security to the Europe and its little wonder why so many countries want to be a part of it.

Nevertheless, even though the EU is a rapist, I still support Ukraines sovereign right to join it. I also support any countries sovereign right to leave.

There can be no other moral way of looking at it.

[Paphitis]

Most Iranians want the Shah back.

Well that’s bloody cruel Paphitis!

When do you plan to break the news to them... that the Shah has been dead since 1980?

I know many Iranians Get Real. So many of them in Australia and the US. In high level medical jobs as well. So we are not talking about any uneducated nobodies.

Medicine in Australia and the US is full of Iranians.

Never met one who supports the Ayatollah. I always ask them that question because it intrigues me.

Iran was a different place under the US backed shah. It was moving towards the west and it would have been a powerhouse like the UAE.

[Get Real!]

Well tell your friends that he’s no longer in exile but somewhere up in the heavens… in fact the entire family is gone!

[Paphitis]

Well tell your friends that he’s no longer in exile but somewhere up in the heavens… in fact the entire family is gone!

Before Australia introduced zero tolerance at its borders, tens of thousands of Iranians would risk their lives making a perilous journey to come to Australia. Hundreds if not thousands died at sea.

Hundreds ended up in Australian detention centres before Trump actually honoured an agreement between Australia and US which he inherited from Obama to offer these Iranians asylum.

It just goes to show that the Shah was a pussy cat compared to that idiotic theocratic Ayatollah goat shagger

So perhaps the US deserves far more credit for at least trying to offer Iranians hope and freedom.

In the days of the Shah, women could wear bikinis as if they were in Miami. And smoke bongs. Now, they would be buried to their chests and stoned. Go figure.

[Paphitis]

It comes down to the right of self determination. This right of self determination was being instilled universally some 7 decades ago by the UN.

We all know that when Cyprus was under British rule that Cypriots, in accordance with establishing self determination guidelines, certainly had a right to determine its future.

This is a clear underlying international principle now.

It’s not self determination as long as a neighbouring bigger country approves and that if they don’t, they’ll invade and occupy the smaller country. If it was, then you might as well throw these principles on the dustbin to the detriment of all smaller nations. That’s not a good place to be, in particular for a country like Cyprus.

And there are dozens of micro states all over the world that would be ripe for the taking by any larger country.

Question is this. Does Ukraine have the right to determine it’s own destiny? Or should it cower to its more larger and ferocious neighbour to avoid invasion? Does Russia have a right to invade this country? Abs if so, what does that mean for Cyprus? Can Turkey justify its occupation by claiming a so called security concern? Well if you ask Pootin, it would seem that he believes Turkey does have the right.

[Get Real!]

Joining NATO or any other criminal gang, doesn’t form part of “self determination” Paphitis.

[Pyrpolizer]

It comes down to the right of self determination. This right of self determination was being instilled universally some 7 decades ago by the UN.

We all know that when Cyprus was under British rule that Cypriots, in accordance with establishing self determination guidelines, certainly had a right to determine its future.

This is a clear underlying international principle now.

It’s not self determination as long as a neighbouring bigger country approves and that if they don’t, they’ll invade and occupy the smaller country. If it was, then you might as well throw these principles on the dustbin to the detriment of all smaller nations. That’s not a good place to be, in particular for a country like Cyprus.

And there are dozens of micro states all over the world that would be ripe for the taking by any larger country.

Question is this. Does Ukraine have the right to determine it’s own destiny? Or should it cower to its more larger and ferocious neighbour to avoid invasion? Does Russia have a right to invade this country? Abs if so, what does that mean for Cyprus? Can Turkey justify its occupation by claiming a so called security concern? Well if you ask Pootin, it would seem that he believes Turkey does have the right.

The right to self determination within the context of decolonization is very clear, however it's not at all clear outside of that, and in fact limited by 100s of other conventions starting from Article 2(4) of the UN Charter, the Friendly Relations Declaration etc etc.
If the right to self determination was automatic then every minority and every group in every state would be entitled to form it's own mini state.

[Lordo]

It comes down to the right of self determination. This right of self determination was being instilled universally some 7 decades ago by the UN.

We all know that when Cyprus was under British rule that Cypriots, in accordance with establishing self determination guidelines, certainly had a right to determine its future.

This is a clear underlying international principle now.

It’s not self determination as long as a neighbouring bigger country approves and that if they don’t, they’ll invade and occupy the smaller country. If it was, then you might as well throw these principles on the dustbin to the detriment of all smaller nations. That’s not a good place to be, in particular for a country like Cyprus.

And there are dozens of micro states all over the world that would be ripe for the taking by any larger country.

Question is this. Does Ukraine have the right to determine it’s own destiny? Or should it cower to its more larger and ferocious neighbour to avoid invasion? Does Russia have a right to invade this country? Abs if so, what does that mean for Cyprus? Can Turkey justify its occupation by claiming a so called security concern? Well if you ask Pootin, it would seem that he believes Turkey does have the right.

The right to self determination within the context of decolonization is very clear, however it's not at all clear outside of that, and in fact limited by 100s of other conventions starting from Article 2(4) of the UN Charter, the Friendly Relations Declaration etc etc.
If the right to self determination was automatic then every minority and every group in every state would be entitled to form it's own mini state.

That is not strictly true. Not even the Kurds have asked for independence. All they asked for it autonomy. If the Country they reside in treats them well why on earth would they want to lose all that and struggle under independemce. Both Welsh and Scotland refused it.

This aslo applied in Cyprus back in 1960. TCs were unable to survive without financial help from Turkey. Allowing Turkey to make TC depend on them financially was the begining of the end of RoC as it was then. Unfortunateky the GC leadership did not wanr RoC, they want enosis instead through the back door.

[Paphitis]

It comes down to the right of self determination. This right of self determination was being instilled universally some 7 decades ago by the UN.

We all know that when Cyprus was under British rule that Cypriots, in accordance with establishing self determination guidelines, certainly had a right to determine its future.

This is a clear underlying international principle now.

It’s not self determination as long as a neighbouring bigger country approves and that if they don’t, they’ll invade and occupy the smaller country. If it was, then you might as well throw these principles on the dustbin to the detriment of all smaller nations. That’s not a good place to be, in particular for a country like Cyprus.

And there are dozens of micro states all over the world that would be ripe for the taking by any larger country.

Question is this. Does Ukraine have the right to determine it’s own destiny? Or should it cower to its more larger and ferocious neighbour to avoid invasion? Does Russia have a right to invade this country? Abs if so, what does that mean for Cyprus? Can Turkey justify its occupation by claiming a so called security concern? Well if you ask Pootin, it would seem that he believes Turkey does have the right.

The right to self determination within the context of decolonization is very clear, however it's not at all clear outside of that, and in fact limited by 100s of other conventions starting from Article 2(4) of the UN Charter, the Friendly Relations Declaration etc etc.
If the right to self determination was automatic then every minority and every group in every state would be entitled to form it's own mini state.

Universal principles such as these are clear and no, not every minority has the right to declare their own sovereignty. Otherwise, the bastions of democracy which are tolerant and free societies may be in trouble.

Does the Greek community have a right to self determination in Melbourne or New York? No of course not. They only have a right to be fully fledged Australian and US citizens, abide by the local laws and participate in their adopted countries institutions as citizens of that country.

But Cypriots, like Tavulans, and like Ukrainians have a right to statehood. They are in fact nation states on par and equal in status to any other country on earth and anyone who invades them, bullies them, or occupies their territory either in whole or in part, is breaking international law.

No country has the right to invade and occupy. Not Turkey, not Russia and not USA or anyone else for that matter.

You can already see which countries respect international law and fundamental universal principles based on peace and stability. Even when the US entered Afghanistan, there was never a policy to take over Afghanistan and occupy it. US and coalition presence was only meant to be temporary and Afghanistan’s right to exist as a nation was always unquestionable and sacred.