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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:57 pm

Paphitis wrote:DING DONG bitches!

It doesn't matter what America is considering with regard to arming the Ukrainian military. They are arming a sovereign country, member of the UN with defined borders that has been invaded. It is very noble, ethical and within international law as America is helping the nation of Ukraine defend its territorial integrity. It would be reprehensible of America, and downright disgusting if they would not do what they are doing. America is on the right side of history. Russia invaded another country and has broken international laws and conventions. FACT!

And it is not the only country arming Ukraina. So many more countries are doing the same, the most prolific of which are UK, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia.

You are in trouble bitches and losing the war. Ukraine will be the end of Pootin and Russia as you know it.

They will continue with exactly what they are doing. There will be no rest for Russians in Ukraine, except in a grave.

Now bitches, just remain patient, after my redeye tionight, I promise I will be rubbing your reprehensively dirty noses in the dirt. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Where do I sign up? These people aren't interested in sensible and reasonable discussion.

Putin's fucked. Thus, all the desperate Nuclear and mobilisation BS today. He's painted himself into a corner, is playing to his right-wing Nazi support, that's been giving him very public shit, but has no way out. The Russian army's been proven to actually be shite. Following their Slavic thug leader's example they've cashed in every rouble of equipment they've been able to. Senior officers have grown wealthy on the proceeds. In about 3 months time (when personally I believe the real decisive stuff will be settled) 300,000 grunts will turn up (those that couldn't get a ticket out that is) at the meat grinder. Poorly trained - many of those qualified to do so have already been sacrificed - and using equipment dragged out of ancient warehouses they won't stand a chance. They'll be slaughtered. The only formidable aspect of the Russian military is the State's propaganda machine. When every last Russian grunt has been dispatched from Ukrainian territory we will still be getting those good news links every day. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:54 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:As is so often the case. The discourse of the deaf. :(

Putin’s in trouble - now - his army has significant problems, but he can never acknowledge anything which hints at defeat. Even partial. Not least because his most loyal supporters would eat him alive.

Your point about weapon systems is nothing new and it remains to be seen just who would actually end up delivering what/when. It’s a non-sequitur/distraction from today’s important issue. More desperation.

Today Putin publicly announces the mobilization of 300,000 reservists and reiterates his willingness to use nuclear weapons in defence of Mother Russia. That, whilst adding, after sham, illegal, positive annexation referendums in seized Ukrainian territory he would regard them as part of the Homeland. Ipso facto, if the Ukrainians continue efforts to take back their land he will feel fully justified in using nuclear weapons in defence of “Russia”. These are indisputable facts, widely and publicly reported.

Yet, you insist the US, who haven’t committed or lost any troops in Ukraine, are responsible for this escalation - presumably with a straight face - and question my thinking.

You don’t comment on Shoigu’s clearly ludicrous claim of only 6000 Russian dead. Perhaps you believe him? Why not? You’ve regularly believed other fairy stories about this conflict. Nor do you tell us why - GR’s showing us daily for 7 months how much the Russian army has ground down the Ukrainians - mobilization and more nuclear threats have suddenly become necessary.

It’s a mystery apparently. :?


1st paragraph: You seem to know everything. Probably you are a mouse inside Kremlin hearing and knowing everything.

2nd paragraph: Obviously you don't follow the news, about what the Pentagon is "considering".

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The rest is just about the same nonsense. Not worthy of wasting my time.

Btw are you trying to write poetry or is that a deliberate effort to make yourself incomprehensible?


WTF does "Mouse in the Kremlin" mean? Putin's appeared in front of the world to announce all of this today. :roll:

What's happened in the past 24 hours is Putin has deliberately cranked things up ..........................considerably. Bringing humanity closer to nuclear war than it's been for 60 years, in the holy cause of saving his sorry ass. (GR - "If Putin goes everthing must go!" :eyecrazy: )

If you want to play the personal abuse card instead of civilized discussion then OK - fuck you.

You've been a useful idiot since the beginning. Echoing everything the Kremlin pours out - even the ridiculous stuff - like a compliant sheep. Perfect material.

I have no doubt at all that if Russia nuked London tomorrow - a city of 8 million and something a very senior advisor to Putin suggested could happen on the BBC today - you would think up some fuckwit reason why the man had no choice and it was all the US/UK's fault.

You're a GR sycophant who's even adopted his "criminal" prefix recently. You stay silent on his nuclear Armageddon rants like a servile disciple. Claiming that any pointing out of the lunacy is "tricks". :roll:

This entire worldwide fuck up is down to one man. A man who's ruled Russia with an iron fist for over 2 decades and has broached no opposition. A man who's talked publicly - it's there on YouTube - about his dream of Russia, post Soviet Union glory - revisiting the days of Peter the Great.

If you think Russia invading a neighbouring country with 200,000 troops, killing tens of thousands and levelling cities and towns is in anyway excusable - although of course very interesting from behind that keyboard - then you're a ................... searches for forum term..................... got it................cunt. You do seem to enjoy the spectacle. "Oh, look! There go 3 Ukranian troops flying through the air. Well spotted." Men dying defending their country. Although, we don't like to see any corpses - do we? That would be too much. Wanker.

BTW - still no comment on Shoigu's statement? Well, there's a surprise.

No comment on how wrong you were about Tim's posts. Well, there's a surprise.

The lack of any answer to those points and pathetic avoidance of a reasoned response to my previous post is of course because you simply don't have one.

Back to the safety of broadcasting Kremlin propaganda for you then I guess. Why waste your valuable time discussing the issues - on what's supposed to be a "debating" forum.


TLDR. What's the matter with you LondonRocky? You were infected from Paphitis' verbal diarrhea disease ?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:02 pm

Well, I suspect you actually did. :wink:

Let me give you a short extract anyway though:

"BTW - still no comment on Shoigu's statement? Well, there's a surprise.

No comment on how wrong you were about Tim's posts. Well, there's a surprise.

The lack of any answer to those points and pathetic avoidance of a reasoned response to my previous post is of course because you simply don't have one.

Back to the safety of broadcasting Kremlin propaganda for you then I guess. Why waste your valuable time discussing the issues - on what's supposed to be a "debating" forum."

Now - ain't that the troof!?? :lol:

Do feel free to fuck off though and either continue to broadcast your Russian propaganda or - for an occasional break - compare notes on flying bodies with the other GR clique members.

Putin's screwed. Lots of big miscalculations. Serves the cunt right. Burn in Hell. :twisted:

Advice? - Stop digging. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:09 pm

Was it not one of our esteemed members who said if this war lasts for more than a week, Putin is fucked.

Russia is not just fighting the Ukrainians; Nato has joined in too with economic warfare and Arms supplies. Interestingly the Ukrainian generals did not want to attack this month, they preferred to wait till Spring so they can take advantage of what they gained. Instead, they now have lost 12,000 soldiers and incapacitated another 10,000 and with electricity supplies cut off they can hardly move anywhere. Not forgetting that they have taken 8000 Km2 land when there is another 125,000 Km2 to go.

The attack was necessary for the west to be able to justify the money and arms they are sending. This war looks like it will go on for a very long time and the UK debt reaching 3 trillion already, the winter of discontent is a coming. 10 million Brits will struggle to put food on the table.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:09 pm

Paphitis and LondonRocky don't panic! The referenda will rubber seal the fact that Russia is in Lughansk, Donesk, Zaporicha , and Kherson to stay FOREVER. This will boost the moral of the locals too. By early October all that territory will be Russian Territory.
I am anxiously waiting for those 300K troops to come, and teach you and the Ukranian puppet regime a lesson. Ukrainians soldiers will all be running to hide in Lviv.
Then you two might learn how to shut up, although that's doubtful for LR. Most probably he will revert to his old habit of whining. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:10 pm

Londonrake wrote:Well, I suspect you actually did. :wink:

Let me give you a short extract anyway though:

"BTW - still no comment on Shoigu's statement? Well, there's a surprise.

No comment on how wrong you were about Tim's posts. Well, there's a surprise.

The lack of any answer to those points and pathetic avoidance of a reasoned response to my previous post is of course because you simply don't have one.

Back to the safety of broadcasting Kremlin propaganda for you then I guess. Why waste your valuable time discussing the issues - on what's supposed to be a "debating" forum."

Now - ain't that the troof!?? :lol:

Do feel free to fuck off though and either continue to broadcast your Russian propaganda or - for an occasional break - compare notes on flying bodies with the other GR clique members.

Putin's screwed. Lots of big miscalculations. Serves the cunt right. Burn in Hell. :twisted:

Advice? - Stop digging. :wink:


Not interested. FUCK YOU.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:29 pm

Alright, let’s quickly recap on what’s changed...

Russia has basically announced that it will incorporate captured Ukrainian states into Russian territory which means that these states will now enjoy the full military protection of what Russia has to offer, including nuclear.

So in other words it’s as if Russia’s official western border has moved to the left by several hundreds of miles.

Putin has fully committed himself not only in capturing, not only in the upgrading through many public works as seen carried out predominantly in Mariupol, but has also guaranteed the maximum level of security to these territories that the Russian state can possibly offer.

The result is that any potential NATO attempts to liberate/recapture such territories (as attempted in Kherson and Kharkiv early this month) will now be tantamount to attacking Russia proper!

This certainly throws a new serious spanner in the works; and as much as Zelensky probably won’t understand it, henceforth NATO has good reason to be worried about the correct course of any potential action.

It’s become a chess game between two superpowers that refuse to back down which can only mathematically lead to a nuclear solution… fun times ahead!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:43 pm

Get Real! wrote:Alright, let’s quickly recap on what’s changed...

Russia has basically announced that it will incorporate captured Ukrainian states into Russian territory which means that these states will now enjoy the full military protection of what Russia has to offer, including nuclear.

So in other words it’s as if Russia’s official western border has moved to the left by several hundreds of miles.

Putin has fully committed himself not only in capturing, not only in the upgrading through many public works as seen carried out predominantly in Mariupol, but has also guaranteed the maximum level of security to these territories that the Russian state can possibly offer.

The result is that any potential NATO attempts to liberate/recapture such territories (as attempted in Kherson and Kharkiv early this month) will now be tantamount to attacking Russia proper!

This certainly throws a new serious spanner in the works; and as much as Zelensky probably won’t understand it, henceforth NATO has good reason to be worried about the correct course of any potential action.

It’s become a chess game between two superpowers that refuse to back down which can only mathematically lead to a nuclear solution… fun times ahead!

No GR. America will rather let Ukraine die to the last man than cause a nuclear exchange. They are the most powerful cowardly nation on earth. When push comes to shove, they will run just like they did in every war they were involved in. Which is why they will not put soldiers on the ground, they will simply supply arms till there is no more Ukrainians left. And of course, in the meantime American corporations are making a killing in every front.

One interesting point here is also the fact that no country has any sovereignty unless they serve the American interests. How the fuck do people tolerate to face sanctions if they do not do as America says. It is time to send their corporations and their ambassadors packing to go home where they belong and stop trading in Dollars. It is time for another financial method to be used. The system now is fuckin useless for the poor countries. Their resources are being robbed from them left right and center.

Then there will be peace on earth.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:46 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Not interested. FUCK YOU.


YES!!! Back of the net! :lol:

The old maxim retains it's veracity. Tbe truth hurts. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:16 pm

Lordo wrote:No GR. America will rather let Ukraine die to the last man than cause a nuclear exchange.

Lordo, there are already NATO operatives embedded with the Ukie military, and as time goes by we’re seeing more and more direct NATO involvement.

For instance, all the recent higher tech military equipment sent to the Ukraine is in fact operated by western operatives, so when you hear that the Ukraine received the XYZ missile firing system, one can assume that it came complete with its trained foreign operators.

The West has problems training Ukies when it comes to the more complex weapon systems, language/communication being one of them and of course TIME, which nobody has now that this war is in full swing.
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