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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:33 pm

I wonder if this latest message will get through to NATO this time...

https://warnews247.gr/wp-content/upload ... /11-14.mp4

We exist on borrowed time... :lol:

Only a miracle can save us from now till Xmas, such as…

* Biden has a sudden heart attack and croaks.
* Some massive natural disaster affects one of the protagonists.
* God comes down and intervenes.

I can’t think what else... :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:48 pm

When an Israeli says that "if Mr Putin was not accidentally brought to power, there would be no Russia today" you better believe it.

https://youtu.be/oz_gq0LpbTU?t=2455
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:I wonder if this latest message will get through to NATO this time...

https://warnews247.gr/wp-content/upload ... /11-14.mp4

We exist on borrowed time... :lol:

Only a miracle can save us from now till Xmas, such as…

* Biden has a sudden heart attack and croaks.
* Some massive natural disaster affects one of the protagonists.
* God comes down and intervenes.

I can’t think what else... :?


When he said "we will use all means possible to defend our territory" he actually blew up Ukraine's dream to ever take back any of Luhansk, Donesk, Zaporichia, Kherson, or Crimea. This will NEVER happen under ANY circumstances.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:44 pm

Talking of nuclear war, what was the compromise reached between Russia and America back in 1963 to calm things down and avoid nuclear war?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:16 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdFZLhVAhTk

...protests in St Petersburg.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:26 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I wonder if this latest message will get through to NATO this time...

https://warnews247.gr/wp-content/upload ... /11-14.mp4

We exist on borrowed time... :lol:

Only a miracle can save us from now till Xmas, such as…

* Biden has a sudden heart attack and croaks.
* Some massive natural disaster affects one of the protagonists.
* God comes down and intervenes.

I can’t think what else... :?


When he said "we will use all means possible to defend our territory" he actually blew up Ukraine's dream to ever take back any of Luhansk, Donesk, Zaporichia, Kherson, or Crimea. This will NEVER happen under ANY circumstances.


The problem is, no he didn’t. The Ukrainians have been subject to Putin’s bully boy threats since before February 24th. Including when they had Russian troops on the outskirts of Kiev. They’ve become inured to it all. Their morale’s high, knowing now they face a reluctant and badly organized army. It won’t make any difference at all to their continuing prosecution of the war and time’s on their side.

We’ve been listening to bluster about Russian use of nuclear weapons for 7 months (not the actions of a confident regime) lately including the Sergei Markov (senior Putin adviser) BBC interview where he threatened a missile attack on London. In another, a well known Russian TV host, Olga Skabeeva said Putin should launch a nuclear strike on the UK during the Queen’s funeral, to ensure maximum chaos. This stuff isn’t “off the cuff”. It’s officially approved desperation rhetoric.

Should even a low yield nuke be used as a warning demo on an isolated target (Snake island?) Putin can certainly kiss his Chinese and Indian ass goodbye. Russia will be even more the proverbial fart in a space suit.

Putin’s options are contracting and the consequences of his war coming relentlessly home to roost. Witness what’s been happening on Russian streets this week and at the airports. The joys of dictatorship.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:09 am

Londonrake wrote:It’s officially approved desperation rhetoric.

That’s just your fallacious interpretation there Londoner… :)

The desperation is all stemming from the West… which is hell-bent on destroying that which it cannot control.

Desperation that they are unable to dislodge ONE country from the Ukraine, despite the gargantuan multi-faceted efforts of 40 odd nations!

Desperation that their economies will suffer horrendous damage yet is still not enough to achieve their sinister goal!

Desperation that they’ve burnt their bridges with cheap easy energy and it was all for nothing!

Desperation that the masses will only take so much shit before they come out in droves with their pitchforks looking for culprits for their demise.

Desperation at the realization that they have bitten off more than they can chew against a power with more nuclear warheads than the rest of the world combined!

A desperation that the anti-Russian criminal gang is not comprised of “the world” as they were boasting and dreaming, but of only the usual culprits who have spread death and destruction to two dozen nations in the past.

I could write a few pages about the West’s desperation Londoner... but you would need to get your head out the West’s arse to be able to see better!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:12 am

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I wonder if this latest message will get through to NATO this time...

https://warnews247.gr/wp-content/upload ... /11-14.mp4

We exist on borrowed time... :lol:

Only a miracle can save us from now till Xmas, such as…

* Biden has a sudden heart attack and croaks.
* Some massive natural disaster affects one of the protagonists.
* God comes down and intervenes.

I can’t think what else... :?


When he said "we will use all means possible to defend our territory" he actually blew up Ukraine's dream to ever take back any of Luhansk, Donesk, Zaporichia, Kherson, or Crimea. This will NEVER happen under ANY circumstances.


The problem is, no he didn’t. The Ukrainians have been subject to Putin’s bully boy threats since before February 24th. Including when they had Russian troops on the outskirts of Kiev. They’ve become inured to it all. Their morale’s high, knowing now they face a reluctant and badly organized army. It won’t make any difference at all to their continuing prosecution of the war and time’s on their side.

We’ve been listening to bluster about Russian use of nuclear weapons for 7 months (not the actions of a confident regime) lately including the Sergei Markov (senior Putin adviser) BBC interview where he threatened a missile attack on London. In another, a well known Russian TV host, Olga Skabeeva said Putin should launch a nuclear strike on the UK during the Queen’s funeral, to ensure maximum chaos. This stuff isn’t “off the cuff”. It’s officially approved desperation rhetoric.

Should even a low yield nuke be used as a warning demo on an isolated target (Snake island?) Putin can certainly kiss his Chinese and Indian ass goodbye. Russia will be even more the proverbial fart in a space suit.

Putin’s options are contracting and the consequences of his war coming relentlessly home to roost. Witness what’s been happening on Russian streets this week and at the airports. The joys of dictatorship.


Putin did not underestimated Ukraine’s ability to stop him from achieving his goals in Ukraine, because he did not fear as such and neither has Ukraine stoped him yet. What Putin underestimated was that NATO and the collective West would go to war with Russia in Ukraine. From the early stages of this war, it has become clear that the war was no longer between Russia and Ukraine, therefore, what may come next in the field of nuclear weapons being used, it will be a collective responsibility and the fault of all sides who have been involved in this war knee deep, regardless who pushes the button first. :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:18 am

Londonrake wrote:Witness what’s been happening on Russian streets this week and at the airports. The joys of dictatorship.

When 70,000 citizens marched in (I forget which city now) against the West’s suicidal policies (one of dozens of protests EU-wide), it never occurred to you that it may be the result of dictatorships in both Brussels and Washington, who care not for the public’s opinion… yet you see Moscow’s 1,500 odd protesters as resistance to a dictatorship! :lol:

Like I said you desperately need to get your head OUT of the West’s arse and smell some fresh air.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:00 am

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Witness what’s been happening on Russian streets this week and at the airports. The joys of dictatorship.

When 70,000 citizens marched in (I forget which city now) against the West’s suicidal policies (one of dozens of protests EU-wide), it never occurred to you that it may be the result of dictatorships in both Brussels and Washington, who care not for the public’s opinion… yet you see Moscow’s 1,500 odd protesters as resistance to a dictatorship! :lol:

Like I said you desperately need to get your head OUT of the West’s arse and smell some fresh air.


The inevitable cherry pick. :lol: I know, we all do it.

Well, I think it’s 1500 arrests actually, with protests taking place in 38 cities, not just Moscow. Protests, particularly against the war in Ukraine, are of course a much more serious and potentially consequential thing in Russia than the West.

I take it as resistance to Putin’s war and illusory goals, rather than the man himself. Hopefully that will come later, when the cost of his war becomes more generally known.

It seems you can’t get an airline ticket out of Moscow or St Petersburg for love nor money at the moment.

I thoroughly agree with you about the Brussels dictatorship. The US though? Well, they got rid of Trump of course, thankfully. I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden suffers a similar fate. Putin though - like good ole Idi Amin - is President for life (which hopefully won’t be too long).

As far as head up asses goes. I admire your tenacious idolatry for Putin but suggest you’re being a bit hypocritical. There surely can’t be anybody on this (small) forum with his head more up somebody’s butt than your good self.

Thank you for all the links. It’s good to see - daily - that, as ever, Putin’s cunning plan is going exactly as the grand chess master expected.

Any comment on the Defence Minister’s claim yesterday that Russian war dead are around 6000? Seems a reasonable question. :?
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