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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:19 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Exactly what I've been saying...

"The whole world should pray for Russia's victory, because there are only two ways for this to end: either Russia wins, or there will be a nuclear apocalypse."


Bullocks. Even the oestrogen filled wannabe macho isn't mad enough for that.

Luckily, Russia has now sent call-up papers for those detained in recent anti-war rallies. Some are even shipped directly to the military commissariat already.
What a brilliant idea - arm the ones that hate you!
Russia will be torn from within before you know it

Has anyone else noticed that all the US fan-boys always post out their backsides? :)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:34 pm

Sea drones for Ukraine! I am wondering what else they will supply them.

https://i.ibb.co/B4FLBG1/21-09-en-1.jpg

About an unknown drone near Sevastopol

https://t.me/rybar/39157

Today (https://t.me/rybar/39140single) a marine unmanned vehicle of an unknown type was found off the coast of Sevastopol in the area of Soldatsky Beach.

Around the same time, eyewitnesses in the vicinity of Omega Beach filmed the moment of a strong explosion in the Black Sea due to the destruction of a marine drone.

What is this machine

In terms of visual signs and the strength of the explosion that occurred, this technique is similar to the kamikaze type with a detonating warhead. This is a semi-submersible drone and its task is to covertly approach the target with subsequent detonation.

Most likely, the control is carried out both manually using on-board cameras, and via a satellite channel.

Whose are they

By marking in English, it is clear that they were transferred by Western countries. The supply of unmanned marine vehicles for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was discussed a couple of months ago, but the type of possible equipment was not named.

Before that, there was information about MANTAS drones from the T series. Perhaps a prototype was transferred, because the one found off the coast is similar in size, camera location, material and color of the case to MARTAC products.

This drone is not similar to those that are already in service with any of the NATO countries and were presented earlier. A variant is possible with the production of a new type of weaponry specifically for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as was the case with the Phoenix Ghost UAV. In addition, it may be the use of existing secret developments, for example, American ones. And the conflict in Ukraine is an ideal opportunity to test them in combat conditions.

The current situation is a clear demonstration of the increased threat to the Armed Forces of Ukraine at sea. A long pause after the operation on Zmeinoy made it possible to strengthen combat capabilities against the Black Sea Fleet.

Nevertheless, the fact that the drone was blown up before reaching its goal proves that work has also been done in the Russian fleet and, at a minimum, shipborne electronic warfare systems have been installed. This is precisely what can explain the unmanned aerial vehicle nailed to the shore of Sevastopol, which went astray.

However, the presence of marine semi-submersible equipment with a detonating warhead is a serious danger for Russian ships, which must be taken into account and the necessary measures should be taken to combat them. After all, there can be more than a dozen such drones.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:44 pm

https://t.me/rybar/39160

Results of protest actions against mobilization in Russia

Today there were protests of supporters of the non-systemic opposition against the mobilization.

The main organizer was the "Democratic Movement "Spring", whose coordinators in the past actively cooperated with Mikhail Khodorkovsky.

What eventually came of it

Even according to the most optimistic estimates of the oppositionists themselves, the total number of participants barely exceeded 2 thousand people. By the way, a few years ago it was possible to gather ten times more citizens even for a rally against blocking Telegram in Moscow alone.

Half of the participants across the country were detained. The human rights project OVD-info, which collects information about detentions, reported more than a thousand protesters who went to rest from the protests in the police departments that warmly welcomed old acquaintances.

The protesters themselves were demoralized by the small number of protesters - one of those present at the rally in Moscow told an opposition journalist that she was disappointed by the low interest of citizens in past actions.

For the most part, girls and young students, who are not threatened by mobilization, took part in the rallies - it's hard to imagine that Russian men, who are now thinking about the consequences of this war for them personally, could believe such an audience.

In fact, the remnants of the non-systemic opposition failed in an attempt to shake up the situation in the country at least a little against the backdrop of mobilization. Obviously, a significant role is played by the fact that the most aggressive asset has already left the country after February 24, but the results were depressing even by their own estimates.

Does such a small interest of citizens in past protests indicate a general support for mobilization Of course not.

But it definitely speaks of absolute distrust of the non-systemic liberal opposition associated with fugitive oligarchs, as well as rallies, as a way to solve a problem that is really important for the state.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:14 pm

There has been an exchange of POWs yesterday through Saudi Arabia.

The exact numbers are confusing, some channels report 85 Vs 250 (Rs Vs Uks) some the reverse... The Ukrainian side presumably insisted to exchange only Azovs and foreign mercenaries. None of the convicted foreign mercenaries has been executed. Among them are:

British citizens Aiden Aislin, Sean Pinner, Andrew Hill, John Harding and Dylan Healy.
Americans Alexander Dryuke and Andy Hyun.
Moroccan Ibrahim Saadoun and Croat Vekoslav Prebeg.
All are alive and well. Smiling at the camera.

Russian presumably got commanders and pilots.

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Five Azov commanders will remain in Turkey until the end of the war, Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.
Those were the terms of the exchange.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:US fan-boys[


I'm not, which you probably are very well aware of.

I'm fan of a former comedian though, one that has more balls than the self-pitying megalomaniac of a jerk.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:42 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
Get Real! wrote:US fan-boys[


I'm not, which you probably are very well aware of.

I'm fan of a former comedian though, one that has more balls than the self-pitying megalomaniac of a jerk.


Neither am I particularly. It seems though, when it comes to GR if you're not on "the team" you're obviously a US/UK/West Patsy.

I agree with your view of the contenders, too.

What constitutes "leadership" and effectively representing your country?

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:00 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Any comment on the Defence Minister’s claim yesterday that Russian war dead are around 6000? Seems a reasonable question. :?

I think he’s full of shit and estimate Russia’s dead to be between 12k and 15k... which is still very good considering the Ukraine's 250k+.



If they’ve only lost 15k in 8 months of continuous combat Ops and the Ukrainians a quarter of a million - why do you think Putin wants to mobilize 300,000 men? Presumably that’s men taken out of the economy.


Sorry for not keeping up. I'm not ignoring posts but "life" intervenes.

Anybody want to pick up on this? It doesn't make sense. If the Russians have only suffered 15,000 deaths in 8 months and the Uranians a quarter of a million - why has it become necessary for Putin to order a massive mobilisation? :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:13 pm



...i like this guy; his analysis is informative.

...indeed, even without training, it will take weeks to get these soldiers to the frontlines; tens of thousands perhaps, months for that much more.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:17 pm

...as for the number of dead, let's not forget the other victims in this war, how many civilians have died in this war?
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