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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:01 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:28 pm

Kikapu wrote:


...the Problem.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:16 pm



...very interesting.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:37 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... y-shake-up

...if there are no weapons cached inside the salt mine, Soledar is just another hollow victory; i assume despite the claims of this town's capture, the fight still carries on.

...replacing Generals at this pace indicates Putin's dissatisfaction with the results of his own expectations; he has not yet found among them the ruthlessness he needs.

...a war of attrition appears to be the direction of the fighting. On the other hand, the tanks and air defense systems the Ukraine is waiting for may make the difference.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:51 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
...On the other hand, the tanks and air defense systems the Ukraine is waiting for may make the difference.


Don’t count on it, Warrior! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:39 am

repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/11/russia-replaces-general-in-charge-of-ukraine-war-in-latest-military-shake-up

...if there are no weapons cached inside the salt mine, Soledar is just another hollow victory; i assume despite the claims of this town's capture, the fight still carries on.

...replacing Generals at this pace indicates Putin's dissatisfaction with the results of his own expectations; he has not yet found among them the ruthlessness he needs.

...a war of attrition appears to be the direction of the fighting. On the other hand, the tanks and air defense systems the Ukraine is waiting for may make the difference.

No RW. this will give the Russians a chance to move around and attack the enemy from behind. These tunnels go on for 200 miles.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:02 pm

This won't be another Azovstal saga. Surovikin gave them a few hours to surrender or, he said, he is going seal them inside the salt mines with concrete. :o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In the meantime the Russians report the Ukrainians lost 25,000 in Soledar alone!!
And the Ukrainian propagandists reversed the facts, by spreading the myth in all western media, that the place is full of Russian corpses :shock:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:07 pm

Well I think the Russians are finally going to realise the power against them. Britain is sending tanks to Ukraine. Now surely this will tip the balance right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I mean 10 tanks?

Ukraine is confident that Britain will announce it has plans to send about 10 Challenger 2 tanks to Kyiv shortly, a move it hopes will help Germany finally allow its Leopard 2 tanks to be re-exported to the embattled country.


The general remarks have been that now that the Ukrainians have learned to use Nato weapons, it bodes well for the future membership of Nato. I wonder if they realise as to how many of these people who have learnt this new skill will be alive at the end?

Ironically of course if Ukraine becomes a Nato member, it means Russia is finished as a power, so there will not be any need for Nato from that point on. Talk of missing the point and all that.

This makes even more interesting read.

The British Army has 227 ageing Challenger 2 tanks. Only 148 of them will be modernised and they won't be entirely new. The Challenger 3 tank will use the existing chassis, but it will have a new digital turret and smoothbore gun.


Presumably the ones they are sending over are not modernised.
227 Tanks?
Aircraft carrier without aircraft?
80,000 soldiers?
Are we really that defenseless?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:05 am

...in effect, the British have "the City", and as a result strong allies; for their defense.

Things are changing though because the USA wishes to devolve as did the British 50 years ago; leaving who rules the sea, and England's defense an open question.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:30 am

Last Friday saw Russia’s Urals grade crude oil, its largest petroleum export, trading at $37.80 per barrel against a global benchmark of $78.57 as European sanctions kicked in. “A key driver of price has probably been the lost European market, because it put Russia at the mercy of a tiny pool of large buyers, most notably China and India,” Bloomberg reported. (Sources: Bloomberg, Reuters)


...true?
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