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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:32 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:"I offer my sincere apologies to the victims and their relatives, the residents of Dnipro and everyone who was deeply hurt by my prematurely erroneous version of the reason for the Russian missile striking a residential building," he wrote.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 023-01-17/

...later, he also said.


Did you consider the fact that as a politician he had to secure his political future by lying after he received so much criticism? :wink:


...indeed, such an incident if it were true, could bring down a government; as is often the case, the first reports are inaccurate.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:00 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Arestovich the top advisor of Zelensky

a)Admitted the Russian missile that hit the building in Dnipro killing more than 50 civilians was not actually targeting the building but fell there after been intercepted/diverted by the Ukranians. Just like I said a few posts ago. Watch 2nd video with English subs here:
https://warnews247.gr/makeleio-stin-ouk ... tianosyni/

He was heavily criticized and forced to resign.
Watch what he said after he resigned in 1st video of same link.


If the Kh-22 missiles are so notoriously inaccurate as claimed by the British Defence of non Intelligence, then how are they going to hit a moving aircraft carrier at sea which is what they are designed to hit? :lol:

Russian forces hit the Dnipro apartment block with an Kh-22 missile designed to destroy aircraft carrier groups at sea. British Defence Intelligence said that Kh-22 missiles are "notoriously inaccurate".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:48 am

...i am asking, what were they intending from such a missile; why this hardware?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:15 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...i am asking, what were they intending from such a missile; why this hardware?


I am sure they were not aiming at the apartment block as it would be a complete waste of a very expensive missile if nothing else. It must have been one driven off-target by a Ukraine AA missile. so I doubt we will ever know what the actual target was!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:20 am

Well, well. Welcome back. :wink:

It seems a fair enough question. What’s a Russian anti-ship missile doing in a Ukrainian city 200 Km from the Black Sea? :?

Answer? Because they do a lot of damage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-22

And cost aside, the Russians have used them a lot in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:41 am

Londonrake wrote:Well, well. Welcome back. :wink:

It seems a fair enough question. What’s a Russian anti-ship missile doing in a Ukrainian city 200 Km from the Black Sea? :?


It may have been designed to use against aircraft carriers but ........ I may be wrong but I don't think Ukraine have any aircraft carriers? Surely you would use anything capable of doing the job, like you would use an anti-tank missile against a concrete 'pill box' or a command center ?

I don't think its designed use is of any significance. :wink:

I was on quite a good discussion site until recently when it got swamped with loud mouthed offensive anti-Putin lunatics and the quality of conversation went down hill ..... very rapidly and all those who were not anti-Putin .... were made targets of abuse. So I quit and decided to test the water here. It seems to have gone rather quiet since the dual between GR and Milti ! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:49 am

Yes. The forum has been sort of death throes quiet for a while now. Particularly this thread, which hasn’t surprised me. There seems little in the way of a polite exchange of views zone. :D That’s war for you I suppose.

As you probably know Milti became very unwell and explained he was dropping out to undergo significant cancer therapy.

GR is a concern. It’s not the first time he’s gone on sabbatical but previously he’s always announced it. This time he simply stopped posting what must be a couple of months back now.

I should add. We’ve been missing out on Paphitis’s regular contributions for a while now, as well. Is it S.A.D? :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:47 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Well, well. Welcome back. :wink:

It seems a fair enough question. What’s a Russian anti-ship missile doing in a Ukrainian city 200 Km from the Black Sea? :?


It may have been designed to use against aircraft carriers but ........ I may be wrong but I don't think Ukraine have any aircraft carriers? Surely you would use anything capable of doing the job, like you would use an anti-tank missile against a concrete 'pill box' or a command center ?

I don't think its designed use is of any significance. :wink:

I was on quite a good discussion site until recently when it got swamped with loud mouthed offensive anti-Putin lunatics and the quality of conversation went down hill ..... very rapidly and all those who were not anti-Putin .... were made targets of abuse. So I quit and decided to test the water here. It seems to have gone rather quiet since the dual between GR and Milti ! :roll:


Yes, welcome back RH.

I was just taking the piss of the reported comments from the British Defence Intelligence that they were implying that the Kh-22 missile hit the residential building just by chance because they are “notoriously inaccurate” rather than perhaps it was deflected to the building due to proximity explosion by Ukraine’s defense systems so not to lay any blame on Ukraine at al for all the deaths, which one wouldn’t anyway since this is war and shit happens. But what make it such a ridiculous comment by the BDI was that these missiles are meant to destroy Aircraft carrier group of ships. How can a “notoriously inaccurate” missiles would be expected to hit a moving target such as a ship? They can’t even get their propaganda bullshit straight. Perhaps they meant destroying ships with these missiles in another Pearl Harbour II as sitting ducks? :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:57 pm

Lots of "shhh don't tell" among the Americans, about the F-35, costing 80M each, crashing every other day. :shock:
The latest one:
https://twitter.com/cbs11doug/status/16 ... 4704406530
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:59 pm

Londonrake wrote:Well, well. Welcome back. :wink:

It seems a fair enough question. What’s a Russian anti-ship missile doing in a Ukrainian city 200 Km from the Black Sea? :?

Answer? Because they do a lot of damage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-22

And cost aside, the Russians have used them a lot in Ukraine.
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It's not anti-ship only. There are various versions, read your own link.
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