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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:07 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world. Nato can never go against Russia, the same way Russia can never go in war with Nato. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Do you at least know the reason?


What do you mean by "go against"?

Also, what difference does it make how many nukes you have? Does Russia with 5977 have the edge over the US's 5428 (not to mention French, Chinese and UK stocks). I think not. You have to recognise that just one would obliterate Washington/Moscow.

Conventionally it's a different picture. NATO forces are overwhelming compared to the Russians. Moreover, the latter's performance in Ukraine has shown what a busted flush they are.

But this is all "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" shit. Russia and NATO are not going to direct war with each other.


Surely ...... NATO and Russia ARE at war with one another? Ukraine is just the cannon fodder chosen to die for the US and NATO! That is why NATO countries, well some of them, keep sending them all these weapons. What baffles me is that IF Ukraine is winning this war as some would have us believe and destroying Russian forces in the tens of thousands ........ why do they constantly need more weapons. :?


Nope! You will know when NATO is at war with Russia. There won't be a Russia to talk bout. It would be turned to glass. NATO is just watching and bemused at Russia's stupidity. And stupidity must never go unpunished.

And Ukraine is defending its territorial integrity. Russia attacked Ukraine by sending its cannon fodder to die in Ukraine and that is what they are doing. Fertilising the Ukrainian lands with Russian fertiliser.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:12 pm

Paphitis wrote:Nope! You will know when NATO is at war with Russia. There won't be a Russia to talk bout. It would be turned to glass. NATO is just watching and bemused at Russia's stupidity. And stupidity must never go unpunished.

And Ukraine is defending its territorial integrity. Russia attacked Ukraine by sending its cannon fodder to die in Ukraine and that is what they are doing. Fertilising the Ukrainian lands with Russian fertiliser.


See, you have to give the man credit. I couldn't say (obvious) shit like that and get away with it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:16 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world. Nato can never go against Russia, the same way Russia can never go in war with Nato. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Do you at least know the reason?


What do you mean by "go against"?

Also, what difference does it make how many nukes you have? Does Russia with 5977 have the edge over the US's 5428 (not to mention French, Chinese and UK stocks). I think not. You have to recognise that just one would obliterate Washington/Moscow.

Conventionally it's a different picture. NATO forces are overwhelming compared to the Russians. Moreover, the latter's performance in Ukraine has shown what a busted flush they are.

But this is all "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" shit. Russia and NATO are not going to direct war with each other.


What makes you so sure any Nato member, even the US alone, would perform any better in Ukraine, under the same circumstances?

I agree with the rest of what you said, just tell that to the Nato cheerleader who challenges for a nuclear war.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:What makes you so sure any Nato member, even the US alone, would perform any better in Ukraine, under the same circumstances?


Do the math.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:19 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world. Nato can never go against Russia, the same way Russia can never go in war with Nato. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Do you at least know the reason?


What do you mean by "go against"?

Also, what difference does it make how many nukes you have? Does Russia with 5977 have the edge over the US's 5428 (not to mention French, Chinese and UK stocks). I think not. You have to recognise that just one would obliterate Washington/Moscow.

Conventionally it's a different picture. NATO forces are overwhelming compared to the Russians. Moreover, the latter's performance in Ukraine has shown what a busted flush they are.

But this is all "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" shit. Russia and NATO are not going to direct war with each other.


What makes you so sure any Nato member, even the US alone, would perform any better in Ukraine, under the same circumstances?

I agree with the rest of what you said, just tell that to the Nato cheerleader who challenges for a nuclear war.


The US wouldn't invade another country to take it over and make it part of the US, target civilians like the Russians do or level any cities like the Russians have.

NATO would never put itself in such a position and its only purpose is the defence of Europe, peace and security. It's purpose is to respond to an attack against one of its members.

And sorry, but the US has proven how effective its military is with Desert Storm and also Afghanistan. They have also proven Russia to be a military diud in Ukraine.

Russia isn't even in the same league and are fighting like American Grand dads did on the western front in trenches back in 1918. Backwards. That's not the American way of thinking.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world. Nato can never go against Russia, the same way Russia can never go in war with Nato. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Do you at least know the reason?


What do you mean by "go against"?

Also, what difference does it make how many nukes you have? Does Russia with 5977 have the edge over the US's 5428 (not to mention French, Chinese and UK stocks). I think not. You have to recognise that just one would obliterate Washington/Moscow.

Conventionally it's a different picture. NATO forces are overwhelming compared to the Russians. Moreover, the latter's performance in Ukraine has shown what a busted flush they are.

But this is all "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" shit. Russia and NATO are not going to direct war with each other.


What makes you so sure any Nato member, even the US alone, would perform any better in Ukraine, under the same circumstances?

I agree with the rest of what you said, just tell that to the Nato cheerleader who challenges for a nuclear war.


The US wouldn't invade another country to take it over and make it part of the US, target civilians like the Russians do or level any cities like the Russians have.

Of course in your dreams the US would have never invaded and level any cities, or target civilians in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, Libya, Yugoslavia etc etc.

NATO would never put itself in such a position and its only purpose is the defence of Europe, peace and security. It's purpose is to respond to an attack against one of its members.

So which of it's member states will the "defensive" Nato protect in case of war between Greece and Turkey?

And sorry, but the US has proven how effective its military is with Desert Storm and also Afghanistan. They have also proven Russia to be a military diud in Ukraine.

Yep, it proved very effective fighting shepherds.

Russia isn't even in the same league and are fighting like American Grand dads did on the western front in trenches back in 1918. Backwards. That's not the American way of thinking.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:34 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world. Nato can never go against Russia, the same way Russia can never go in war with Nato. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Do you at least know the reason?


What do you mean by "go against"?

Also, what difference does it make how many nukes you have? Does Russia with 5977 have the edge over the US's 5428 (not to mention French, Chinese and UK stocks). I think not. You have to recognise that just one would obliterate Washington/Moscow.

Conventionally it's a different picture. NATO forces are overwhelming compared to the Russians. Moreover, the latter's performance in Ukraine has shown what a busted flush they are.

But this is all "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" shit. Russia and NATO are not going to direct war with each other.


What makes you so sure any Nato member, even the US alone, would perform any better in Ukraine, under the same circumstances?

I agree with the rest of what you said, just tell that to the Nato cheerleader who challenges for a nuclear war.


The US wouldn't invade another country to take it over and make it part of the US, target civilians like the Russians do or level any cities like the Russians have.

Of course in your dreams the US would have never invaded and level any cities, or target civilians in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, Libya, Yugoslavia etc etc.

NATO would never put itself in such a position and its only purpose is the defence of Europe, peace and security. It's purpose is to respond to an attack against one of its members.

So which of it's member states will the "defensive" Nato protect in case of war between Greece and Turkey?

And sorry, but the US has proven how effective its military is with Desert Storm and also Afghanistan. They have also proven Russia to be a military diud in Ukraine.

Yep, it proved very effective fighting shepherds.

Russia isn't even in the same league and are fighting like American Grand dads did on the western front in trenches back in 1918. Backwards. That's not the American way of thinking.


No not in my dreams. The US does not invade other countries to take them over and claim their lands. Nor do they flatten entire cities and kill thousands of civilians. they have never done that since WW2 and they will never do it today.

Greece and Turkey are both NATO members and no, NATO will not attack either country. That would be just stupid. But the fact that both are members has bought peace and stability to both as both are on short leashes, and any move by either to start any shennanigans would have reprecussions for them.

That's where Cyprus fucked up. Cyprus was not a member of NATO.

The Iraqi Military was a fairly well equiped military at the time of Desert Storm. And they were quickly and swiftly demolished. but not just them. US also fucked Serbian Military and militants up real good when they declared a no fly zone over Bosnia when the Serbians were committing war crimes and genocide against Muslims.

Yeh, I would say Merika is the last country to mess with. And Russia knows it too.

Put it this way, I will never answer your question about how the Merikans will do against Ukraine because I like Ukrainians too much to even contemplate that Merika would do anything untoward to them. I would be against Merika if they did. Ukraine is a sovereign country and that is sacred and not to be messed with by anyone. Not even by Merika.

And Merika wouldn't do anything to them anyway no matter what. Merika is only helping them defend themselves and I would be disapoointed if Merika wouldn't do this. Merika is doing the right thing.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:43 pm

Well............................... err.................................. that was an interesting evening. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:51 pm

Furthermore, back in February 22, even was making fun of the Ukrainian Military. I was the only person here not doing that but instead talking them up. But the fact of the matter is that the Ukrainian Military was in an extremely poor state. The Iraqi Military when they invaded Kuwait was one of the most formidable military forces in the world at the ttime. Ukraine was not very formidable at all.

But slowly slowly, America and the west built them up into a very well organised, supplied and well trained military force and today the Ukrainian Military has turned the tables. They are far better equiped and better trained than the Russian Military which wasn't the case at all in February 2022.

Now, Russia is paying a heavy price and its very good to see.

And now, we are talking about Russian Defeat so open just like I said we will will in Feb 2022.

Good will always prevail because the world can never allow evil to win. If we do, we are doomed to more war and we will only embolden to further imperialism from the powers of evil (Russia)

Merika doesn't need to get into a pissing contest. If Russia is brave enough, then just attack us already. Attack Merika and see what happens. Russia invented Russian Roulette didn't they. Merika isn't really worried. Stunned with amazement at Russia's stupidity, but Merika is not scared of Russia because Merikans know they will destroy them if need be.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:00 pm

Here is a good reality check.

Right now, Ukraine has been attacking Riussian Air Bases near Moscow, hundreds of kilometers inside Russia with obsoltete Soviet made ballistic missiles from the 1960s. All of them reached their targets.

The S300 and S400s completely ineffective.

So what chances does Russia have against Merikan, British and French ICBMs? Buckleys chance...

However, the Nassams, and IRIS-T has had a 78% success rate against Russia's most advance cruise missiles. And that's without the Patriot Missile system. The Patriot Missile system has a 98% success rate.

And this is with Ukrainian crews who have had little training.

So tell me. What chances does Russia have if they had direct conflict with NATO and US? Russia would be gone in a matter of days.

Put it to the test bitches. I am adament, it will only be a very short war lasting 24 to 48 hours before Russia is wiped off the face.
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