The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Ukrainian Issue

Everything related to politics in Cyprus and the rest of the world.

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:22 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:They even sanctioned the ICJ.
They also threatened the UN in the past of stopping their funding.
Someone must cut their legs some day.
Can't wait to see it happening with BRICS or any other way. Sonsofabitches, shit of the world.

Indeed and yet there are those who feel they are as sweet as candy.
User avatar
Lordo
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 22225
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:13 pm
Location: From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Walk on Swine walk on

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:52 pm

Paphitis wrote:
And Kuwait was libetated. Happy ending wasn't it?

Shock and Awe and all that US Tech beamed through CNN.
.


You know Paphitis, there wouldn’t needed to be Kuwait liberation had America not gave the go ahead for Saddam to invade Kuwait in the first place. :roll:

Just like there wouldn’t have been a war in Ukraine had America/MATO not prevented the Minsk agreement to be ratified by Ukraine because they wanted a proxy war with Russia.

Well, a proxy war they have got and Russia has gotten more than what would have been had Ukraine ratified Minsk.

Just like Saddam could not back down and withdraw from Kuwait with his tail between his legs, America/NATO now find themselves in the same situation as Saddam did, at least not until there is no longer Ukraine as we know it is left. :wink:

For Russia there is no turning back in Ukraine as the survival of Russia itself depends on it regardless the cost since this war was going to happen come what may as it was decided by America/NATO and prepared for it in stealth since 2014. Russia’s initial start of the war a year ago was planned against Ukraine only not realizing perhaps America/NATO was behind Ukraine all the way. Now Russia is preparing to fight Ukraine with America/NATO in Ukraine as long as there is Ukraine, which is something Biden let slip out recently.

Also, the UN weapons inspectors were never given the time to prove that Saddam did not have WMD, so we got the Shock & Awe prematurely just because America/NATO wanted to kick some “rag head niggers” ass for fun, just because they could by forming the “coalition of the willing (bribed)”! :roll:

So many Americans were so happy in thinking that taking Iraq’s oil after Saddam would reduce the gas (petrol) prices in the USA to 50 cents a gallon. Deluded bunch! Instead America spent $1.5 Trillion in total in Iraq. Americans could have had free petrol for that money for few years! :D

It is astonishing that you praise freedoms in the USA and yet you would celebrate of those voicing their opinions favoring Russia with their predictions in the Ukraine war to be enemy of Ukraine and so to be killed. :roll:

It is not as if Scott Ritter is committing espionage against Ukraine, is he? :roll:

Your dark side on Scott Ritter and others like him is very disturbing to say the least, especially for someone like yourself who constantly champions America’s freedoms. :roll:
User avatar
Kikapu
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 18046
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
And Kuwait was libetated. Happy ending wasn't it?

Shock and Awe and all that US Tech beamed through CNN.
.


You know Paphitis, there wouldn’t needed to be Kuwait liberation had America not gave the go ahead for Saddam to invade Kuwait in the first place. :roll:

Just like there wouldn’t have been a war in Ukraine had America/MATO not prevented the Minsk agreement to be ratified by Ukraine because they wanted a proxy war with Russia.

Well, a proxy war they have got and Russia has gotten more than what would have been had Ukraine ratified Minsk.

Just like Saddam could not back down and withdraw from Kuwait with his tail between his legs, America/NATO now find themselves in the same situation as Saddam did, at least not until there is no longer Ukraine as we know it is left. :wink:

For Russia there is no turning back in Ukraine as the survival of Russia itself depends on it regardless the cost since this war was going to happen come what may as it was decided by America/NATO and prepared for it in stealth since 2014. Russia’s initial start of the war a year ago was planned against Ukraine only not realizing perhaps America/NATO was behind Ukraine all the way. Now Russia is preparing to fight Ukraine with America/NATO in Ukraine as long as there is Ukraine, which is something Biden let slip out recently.

Also, the UN weapons inspectors were never given the time to prove that Saddam did not have WMD, so we got the Shock & Awe prematurely just because America/NATO wanted to kick some “rag head niggers” ass for fun, just because they could by forming the “coalition of the willing (bribed)”! :roll:

So many Americans were so happy in thinking that taking Iraq’s oil after Saddam would reduce the gas (petrol) prices in the USA to 50 cents a gallon. Deluded bunch! Instead America spent $1.5 Trillion in total in Iraq. Americans could have had free petrol for that money for few years! :D

It is astonishing that you praise freedoms in the USA and yet you would celebrate of those voicing their opinions favoring Russia with their predictions in the Ukraine war to be enemy of Ukraine and so to be killed. :roll:

It is not as if Scott Ritter is committing espionage against Ukraine, is he? :roll:

Your dark side on Scott Ritter and others like him is very disturbing to say the least, especially for someone like yourself who constantly champions America’s freedoms. :roll:
He has adopted American policy of "You are either with us or against us". The Yanks can go fuck themselves.
User avatar
Lordo
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 22225
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:13 pm
Location: From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Walk on Swine walk on

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:48 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
And Kuwait was libetated. Happy ending wasn't it?

Shock and Awe and all that US Tech beamed through CNN.
.


You know Paphitis, there wouldn’t needed to be Kuwait liberation had America not gave the go ahead for Saddam to invade Kuwait in the first place. :roll:

Just like there wouldn’t have been a war in Ukraine had America/MATO not prevented the Minsk agreement to be ratified by Ukraine because they wanted a proxy war with Russia.

Well, a proxy war they have got and Russia has gotten more than what would have been had Ukraine ratified Minsk.

Just like Saddam could not back down and withdraw from Kuwait with his tail between his legs, America/NATO now find themselves in the same situation as Saddam did, at least not until there is no longer Ukraine as we know it is left. :wink:

For Russia there is no turning back in Ukraine as the survival of Russia itself depends on it regardless the cost since this war was going to happen come what may as it was decided by America/NATO and prepared for it in stealth since 2014. Russia’s initial start of the war a year ago was planned against Ukraine only not realizing perhaps America/NATO was behind Ukraine all the way. Now Russia is preparing to fight Ukraine with America/NATO in Ukraine as long as there is Ukraine, which is something Biden let slip out recently.

Also, the UN weapons inspectors were never given the time to prove that Saddam did not have WMD, so we got the Shock & Awe prematurely just because America/NATO wanted to kick some “rag head niggers” ass for fun, just because they could by forming the “coalition of the willing (bribed)”! :roll:

So many Americans were so happy in thinking that taking Iraq’s oil after Saddam would reduce the gas (petrol) prices in the USA to 50 cents a gallon. Deluded bunch! Instead America spent $1.5 Trillion in total in Iraq. Americans could have had free petrol for that money for few years! :D

It is astonishing that you praise freedoms in the USA and yet you would celebrate of those voicing their opinions favoring Russia with their predictions in the Ukraine war to be enemy of Ukraine and so to be killed. :roll:

It is not as if Scott Ritter is committing espionage against Ukraine, is he? :roll:

Your dark side on Scott Ritter and others like him is very disturbing to say the least, especially for someone like yourself who constantly champions America’s freedoms. :roll:


You got any evidence to prove the US ordered Suddam to invade Kuwait? No I didn't think so, aside from the fact it wouldn't make any sense because Kuwait was a major US Supplier of Oil.

Scott Ritter is a convicted felon and sex offender. Clearly unhinged and not to be taken seriously and it goes a long way to explain his chip on his shoulder.

I got no issue with not agreeing with people. But Scott Ritter is a very unhinged idiot, who spouts a lot of nonsense but at least he draws a wage from Russia Today and has found refuge in Russia as a paid agent of that country and propagandist and is well known to law enforcement.
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:00 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:They even sanctioned the ICJ.
They also threatened the UN in the past of stopping their funding.
Someone must cut their legs some day.
Can't wait to see it happening with BRICS or any other way. Sonsofabitches, shit of the world.


Merika is the biggest funder of the UN, by far.

And it was trump with his isolationist policies that made those threats.
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:11 am

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They even sanctioned the ICJ.
They also threatened the UN in the past of stopping their funding.
Someone must cut their legs some day.
Can't wait to see it happening with BRICS or any other way. Sonsofabitches, shit of the world.


Merika is the biggest funder of the UN, by far.

And it was trump with his isolationist policies that made those threats.


Of course it is the biggest funder. That's why Marika the bitch can threaten. And no it wasn't only Trump, the biggest threat dates back ~ 20 years when the MSM were calling it "United Nothing".
User avatar
Pyrpolizer
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12893
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:33 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:28 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They even sanctioned the ICJ.
They also threatened the UN in the past of stopping their funding.
Someone must cut their legs some day.
Can't wait to see it happening with BRICS or any other way. Sonsofabitches, shit of the world.


Merika is the biggest funder of the UN, by far.

And it was trump with his isolationist policies that made those threats.


Of course it is the biggest funder. That's why Marika the bitch can threaten. And no it wasn't only Trump, the biggest threat dates back ~ 20 years when the MSM were calling it "United Nothing".


It wasn't a threat.

And yes, if the Merikans pay for everything and the power bill, they have influence and power otherwise what is the point?

This debate happens all time. Australia is also one of the biggest funders of the UN and often that is debated in Australia's Parliament that Australia should reduce funding because the argument from the budget cutters and fiscal rationalists is that the UN is a toothless tiger.

It's just financial. And the argument holds sway in both Merika and Australia, especially among conviction populist politicians and if you put it to a referendum, it is likely the vast majority in Merika and Australia will vote for the slashing of funding to the UN or even complete withdrawal and also complete withdrawal of all overseas peacekeeping deployments.
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:32 am

Paphitis wrote:
You got any evidence to prove the US ordered Suddam to invade Kuwait? No I didn't think so, aside from the fact it wouldn't make any sense because Kuwait was a major US Supplier of Oil.
.


This is a great article if you read it from start to finish on how the US gave it’s tacit approval for the Kuwait invasion by Iraq.


Soon thereafter and several years since the end of the Gulf War, Ambassador Glaspie was widely blamed for allowing or even encouraging an Iraqi invasion. The New York Times on September 23, 1990 quotes Glaspie as saying, “We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.

https://adst.org/2016/02/a-bum-rap-for- ... -iraq-war/
User avatar
Kikapu
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 18046
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:53 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
You got any evidence to prove the US ordered Suddam to invade Kuwait? No I didn't think so, aside from the fact it wouldn't make any sense because Kuwait was a major US Supplier of Oil.
.


This is a great article if you read it from start to finish on how the US gave it’s tacit approval for the Kuwait invasion by Iraq.


Soon thereafter and several years since the end of the Gulf War, Ambassador Glaspie was widely blamed for allowing or even encouraging an Iraqi invasion. The New York Times on September 23, 1990 quotes Glaspie as saying, “We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.

https://adst.org/2016/02/a-bum-rap-for- ... -iraq-war/


Problem is, the guy is a sex offender so no, his articles are t6otal crap.

There are hundreds of journalists in Merika who right anti Gulf War 2 and 3 articles and even go to the extent of calling senate inquiries and impeaching George Bush. These are serious journalists in the NYT and WP.

Scott Ritter is not a journalist or in any way shape or form a serious commentator and he is a sex offender and was court-martialed as well.
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:20 am

Paphitis wrote:
I got no issue with not agreeing with people. But Scott Ritter is a very unhinged idiot, who spouts a lot of nonsense but at least he draws a wage from Russia Today and has found refuge in Russia as a paid agent of that country and propagandist and is well known to law enforcement.


I know all his lifetime story and you are miles away for the truth.
FYI he was working for Fox news too, before that he was working for the UN.

And no, he doesn't write articles on demand. His major income is from books. He writes whatever he thinks could be worth reading and the majority of his articles are published in the US. He ONLY gets paid when the article gets published. He also sends some articles to RT, but there is no guarantee they will be published. So far I 've seen only 3. As you know RT is under sanctions and one would wonder how he gets paid. He said it's done by Swift transfer in US$ but the money gets stack for about a week despite the fact that the Bank already has a copy of his contract. He also said one would be laughing learning the exact amounts he gets, they don't worth the time he spends. Regardless those money are declared in his tax form...

If he were a paid Russian propagandist, how on earth are his views IDENTICAL with General MacGregor's analyses, whose pension is 3 times your salary?

Some time ago I posted links to various "analysts" for comparison purposes, most of them Pro-Ukrainian.
The most convincing of them was Ex head of Cia David Petraeus. Go ahead make a search in Youtube and watch what he says. I am ready to answer ANY of his arguments. Notice his latest videos were titled like 30 days left, 15 days left..... when the Ukrainians will start a new counter offensive and "Russia will be terrified". Problem is his deadline predictions already expired, and the exact opposite is happening.
User avatar
Pyrpolizer
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12893
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:33 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Politics and Elections

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests