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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:10 pm

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Surely ...... NATO and Russia ARE at war with one another? Ukraine is just the cannon fodder chosen to die for the US and NATO! That is why NATO countries, well some of them, keep sending them all these weapons. What baffles me is that IF Ukraine is winning this war as some would have us believe and destroying Russian forces in the tens of thousands ........ why do they constantly need more weapons. :?


Nope! You will know when NATO is at war with Russia. There won't be a Russia to talk bout. It would be turned to glass. NATO is just watching and bemused at Russia's stupidity. And stupidity must never go unpunished.

And Ukraine is defending its territorial integrity. Russia attacked Ukraine by sending its cannon fodder to die in Ukraine and that is what they are doing. Fertilising the Ukrainian lands with Russian fertiliser.


I went for the interview in Germany for the job in Iran, the day Saddam marched into Kuwait ...... that was 2nd Aug 1990.

I was sitting in the lounge of our Bandar Mashar residence about mid-Jan 1991...... when at about 9pm, all the windows rattled, the house shook and the sky was lit with flashes. Then the distant rumble of explosions across the salt flats that divided us from Iraq. We stood on the terrace and watched ..... and worked out that the payback had started. The response to Saddams invasion of Iraq !

Some days later the sky was black all through the day when Saddam set fire to the oil wells. It was like that for weeks until the Hungarians used modified tanks to snuff them out.

So it took NATO nearly 5 months to get themselves organised and that was done without much military response from Iraq ..... who were digging in!

So how long would it take for NATO to up the ante and move troops into Ukraine ...... against a well prepared Russia? How long have they been arguing about supplying weapons to Ukraine .... let alone fighting for them. They would need months of meetings before even coming to a decision. Russia is a single force with a practised leadership who can make decisions in a matter of hours ...... as we have already seen them do!

So I doubt NATO would be very keen on confronting the Russians ...... would chose the status-quo and let Ukrainians go on dying for the US's geo-political and territorial ambitions. :(
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:13 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Nope! You will know when NATO is at war with Russia. There won't be a Russia to talk bout. It would be turned to glass. NATO is just watching and bemused at Russia's stupidity. And stupidity must never go unpunished.

And Ukraine is defending its territorial integrity. Russia attacked Ukraine by sending its cannon fodder to die in Ukraine and that is what they are doing. Fertilising the Ukrainian lands with Russian fertiliser.


See, you have to give the man credit. I couldn't say (obvious) shit like that and get away with it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


As the experts say ....."Never underestimate your enemy!" But you would not post bravado crap like that, I think you are more intelligent. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:10 pm

Americans do not have the balls to fight any country of substance. They like little countries that they can kick around. Of course Afghanistan is a little country and even then they did not do so well. They do a lot of damage tough before they fuck off where they came from and other pay the price.

Their boys like to use their little joystick between their lags and blow people up using drones thousands of miles away and it makes no difference how many civilians they kill in the process including women and children.

As to the brave Mossad who take children to go into a fight and hold them in front of them for cover is the ultimate in bravery.

Spring time will be hell in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:20 am

Lordo wrote:Americans do not have the balls to fight any country of substance. They like little countries that they can kick around. Of course Afghanistan is a little country and even then they did not do so well. They do a lot of damage tough before they fuck off where they came from and other pay the price.

Their boys like to use their little joystick between their lags and blow people up using drones thousands of miles away and it makes no difference how many civilians they kill in the process including women and children.

As to the brave Mossad who take children to go into a fight and hold them in front of them for cover is the ultimate in bravery.

Spring time will be hell in Ukraine.


oooh thast's a big statment!

Firstly, who do you want them to fight? A European Country of substance? Australia? Japan? South KJorea? Who?

Merika is a law abiding country that will not start a war with 99.9% of contries. The only thing it will do is enter a war others started, like Iraq1, or when they have been attacked themselves (Afghanistan) or for some other pressing reason.

And secondly, Iraq did have substance, and so too Serbia, and not to mention Germany, Italy and Japan.

And they carry themselves just fine, and obviously are far better and superior to the Russian Military.

If Russia wants to find out the hard way, it can attack Merika. but it looks like Russia is already finding out via US Proxy Aid to Ukraine and is already being fucked up real good!

THANK YOU MERIKA!


In Merika we have the rule of law and justice as well as very functuioing Government Institutions which grants its people equal rights, equal opportunity, freedoms and democracy. Merika isn't your rogue which will just go out and invade other countries to occupy and take them over or commit genocide, war crimes and other debauchery against defenceless people.

That's Russia and its cohorts who do that.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:25 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Surely ...... NATO and Russia ARE at war with one another? Ukraine is just the cannon fodder chosen to die for the US and NATO! That is why NATO countries, well some of them, keep sending them all these weapons. What baffles me is that IF Ukraine is winning this war as some would have us believe and destroying Russian forces in the tens of thousands ........ why do they constantly need more weapons. :?


Nope! You will know when NATO is at war with Russia. There won't be a Russia to talk bout. It would be turned to glass. NATO is just watching and bemused at Russia's stupidity. And stupidity must never go unpunished.

And Ukraine is defending its territorial integrity. Russia attacked Ukraine by sending its cannon fodder to die in Ukraine and that is what they are doing. Fertilising the Ukrainian lands with Russian fertiliser.


I went for the interview in Germany for the job in Iran, the day Saddam marched into Kuwait ...... that was 2nd Aug 1990.

I was sitting in the lounge of our Bandar Mashar residence about mid-Jan 1991...... when at about 9pm, all the windows rattled, the house shook and the sky was lit with flashes. Then the distant rumble of explosions across the salt flats that divided us from Iraq. We stood on the terrace and watched ..... and worked out that the payback had started. The response to Saddams invasion of Iraq !

Some days later the sky was black all through the day when Saddam set fire to the oil wells. It was like that for weeks until the Hungarians used modified tanks to snuff them out.

So it took NATO nearly 5 months to get themselves organised and that was done without much military response from Iraq ..... who were digging in!

So how long would it take for NATO to up the ante and move troops into Ukraine ...... against a well prepared Russia? How long have they been arguing about supplying weapons to Ukraine .... let alone fighting for them. They would need months of meetings before even coming to a decision. Russia is a single force with a practised leadership who can make decisions in a matter of hours ...... as we have already seen them do!

So I doubt NATO would be very keen on confronting the Russians ...... would chose the status-quo and let Ukrainians go on dying for the US's geo-political and territorial ambitions. :(


And Kuwait was libetated. Happy ending wasn't it?

Shock and Awe and all that US Tech beamed through CNN.

Messaging is clear. don't fuck with Merika because Merika will fuck you up.

NATOIand Merika gave Iraq ample opportunity to leave Kuwait - clearly the preferred option for everyone as it would have avoided a military response from the west. That's what the west does and in addition to this, it takes time to get all the logistical support structures in place. You will not see the west go in half cocked. And for all we know, Saddam could have withdrawn and that would have been a win for everyone, including Iraq and its people.

If Russia attacked any NATO member, the response would be immediate, especially of nukes are involved. US ICBMS would be launched even before Russia's nukes have a chance to reach their targets and it is likely they won't reach their targets due to the massive Air defence Infrastructure of NATO - something Russia does not have to the same capability and quality of the west. Not when Ukraine is sending over 1960s ballistic missiles hundreds of kms into Russia - Russia has buckleys chance against an ICBM.

secondly, NATO will not start a war with Russia EVER! they will only respond to whatever Russia starts. NATO is not an organisation that even allows them to attack another country. They are purely defence and security focused on the security and territorial integrity of its member states. That's it!

The whole point of NATO is the defence of western europe from another recalcitrant who thinks it may be wise to follow in Hitler's footsteps. And it looks like we have a viable candidate who is trying to do that in Pootin. Problem is, his military is already being wiped out in Ukraine. Thanks to Merika and allies. And thanks to the Ukrainian Military who I must give due credit to as they are definately doing the heavy lifting here and giving a very good account of themselves and showing tenacity none of us have seen before from another country in a very long time. Ukraine is doing all the hard work. What Merika and allies are doing is easy compared to what Ukraine is doing and achieving.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Americans do not have the balls to fight any country of substance. They like little countries that they can kick around. Of course Afghanistan is a little country and even then they did not do so well. They do a lot of damage tough before they fuck off where they came from and other pay the price.

Their boys like to use their little joystick between their lags and blow people up using drones thousands of miles away and it makes no difference how many civilians they kill in the process including women and children.

As to the brave Mossad who take children to go into a fight and hold them in front of them for cover is the ultimate in bravery.

Spring time will be hell in Ukraine.


oooh thast's a big statment!

Firstly, who do you want them to fight? A European Country of substance? Australia? Japan? South KJorea? Who?

Merika is a law abiding country that will not start a war with 99.9% of contries. The only thing it will do is enter a war others started, like Iraq1, or when they have been attacked themselves (Afghanistan) or for some other pressing reason.

And secondly, Iraq did have substance, and so too Serbia, and not to mention Germany, Italy and Japan.

And they carry themselves just fine, and obviously are far better and superior to the Russian Military.

If Russia wants to find out the hard way, it can attack Merika. but it looks like Russia is already finding out via US Proxy Aid to Ukraine and is already being fucked up real good!

THANK YOU MERIKA!


In Merika we have the rule of law and justice as well as very functuioing Government Institutions which grants its people equal rights, equal opportunity, freedoms and democracy. Merika isn't your rogue which will just go out and invade other countries to occupy and take them over or commit genocide, war crimes and other debauchery against defenceless people.

That's Russia and its cohorts who do that.


Yes one can find excuses to attack anyone. MARIKKA too. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:48 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Americans do not have the balls to fight any country of substance. They like little countries that they can kick around. Of course Afghanistan is a little country and even then they did not do so well. They do a lot of damage tough before they fuck off where they came from and other pay the price.

Their boys like to use their little joystick between their lags and blow people up using drones thousands of miles away and it makes no difference how many civilians they kill in the process including women and children.

As to the brave Mossad who take children to go into a fight and hold them in front of them for cover is the ultimate in bravery.

Spring time will be hell in Ukraine.


oooh thast's a big statment!

Firstly, who do you want them to fight? A European Country of substance? Australia? Japan? South KJorea? Who?

Merika is a law abiding country that will not start a war with 99.9% of contries. The only thing it will do is enter a war others started, like Iraq1, or when they have been attacked themselves (Afghanistan) or for some other pressing reason.

And secondly, Iraq did have substance, and so too Serbia, and not to mention Germany, Italy and Japan.

And they carry themselves just fine, and obviously are far better and superior to the Russian Military.

If Russia wants to find out the hard way, it can attack Merika. but it looks like Russia is already finding out via US Proxy Aid to Ukraine and is already being fucked up real good!

THANK YOU MERIKA!


In Merika we have the rule of law and justice as well as very functuioing Government Institutions which grants its people equal rights, equal opportunity, freedoms and democracy. Merika isn't your rogue which will just go out and invade other countries to occupy and take them over or commit genocide, war crimes and other debauchery against defenceless people.

That's Russia and its cohorts who do that.


Yes one can find excuses to attack anyone. MARIKKA too. :lol: :lol: :lol:

So good and yet Yanks are not signatories to the International Criminal Court.
I wonder why?

It must be because they are so clean they have no need for right?

What else can be the reason?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:59 pm

They even sanctioned the ICJ.
They also threatened the UN in the past of stopping their funding.
Someone must cut their legs some day.
Can't wait to see it happening with BRICS or any other way. Sonsofabitches, shit of the world.
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