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[Robin Hood]

Another dumb assed comment!

There was only one video of the first impact on WTC1 and the camera panned as an aircraft flew very low and fast overhead. I realise that not being too bright it would not occur to you that hundreds of cameras were then trained on the dramatically burning tower. They would be static and hand held cameras. Thus many cameras caught the second impact, that is why their are multiple shots of the second impact on WTC2.

Again, the same happened with the collapse of the towers. Very few of WTC2 in close up detail but plenty of shots of WTC1 close up ..... for the very same reason. WTC2 was unexpected and WTC1 was a 'most likely'!

Now let's see how smart and observant you really are?

Two raw video's of the collapse of WTC1 .......... actual evidence ....... watch both and then explain, comparing the two, the rather startling revelation that just one, either one, does not?

Shot from first camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfSAiDq15ys

Shot from second camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYzIja6mlRs

[Londonrake]

.............the usual personal attacks

Another dumb assed comment!

With a bucket on your head the only place you can communicate is through your arsehole ! With those handicap's is it any wonder you are clueless and spew shit ?

You are obviously not too bright!

The 'bucket on your head Avatar' could not be more appropriate in your case.

What's that word? You really are such a good one!

If I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it but first prove me wrong, never expect me to apologise just because I may have offended you or bruised your feelings.

You have - in my considerable experience over 10 years - never once admitted that you were wrong about anything - to anybody - ever. Even when it's been glaring. That's arrogance in extremis and an inferiority complex in play.

As far as offended me or bruised my feelings goes, you flatter yourself. Not a flicker, even when you've had one of your famous periodic outbursts of stupidity. The latest being what you've done to ruin quite a good thing in here. All in the name of what?

Having looked at the MH17 thread. You weighed in on July 18th for the first time, Within that and your next post you came out with a contemptuous comment on Kerry's evidence (he said it pointed compellingly to Russia). Despite your earlier accusation at no time did I mention the man. In the second post you accept implicitly and vigorously defend the Russian claim they had proof MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter. That, despite the fact no such proof was ever produced. Afterwards, the story moved on silently from Ukrainian fighters to unanimous acceptance that the tragedy was as a result of a Russian made SAM. Absolutely typical of your hypocrisy and highlighting just how good a useful idiot you are. Well, as in this thread.

[Londonrake]

Just like the people that filmed the aircraft flying into the Twin Towers eh...? Obviously placed there specifically for propaganda reasons...

As I've said on countless occasions, you are wasting your time. The man's totally uninterested in any arguments anybody has other than his own. Despite the fact that 90% of his output is directed at them. Although, the reality is whilst he routinely berates other people's views he actually has little himself in the way of original opinions. He gets them all from others. Mostly via "independent" sites or through the likes of Russian propaganda sources (whether he realises it or not). That, basically in order to fill out his extreme prejudices. Plain old confirmation bias.

In that dogged pursuit, over the years, he's made more enemies (some to the point of actually wanting to do something about it) than you can shake a stick at.

Here, you've brought up a subject close to his heart. He implicitly believes that 9/11 was staged and that the there are aspects which prove it. Nothing that most people believe about that day is apparently true and all the associated evidence is false - contrived.

It's called a conspiracy theory.

Right - off to Paphitis land, where, what with the bush fires and NZ volcano eruption, it seems my long planned holiday has taken on a sort of "natural disasters tour" dimension.

[Robin Hood]

.............the usual personal attacks

Another dumb assed comment!

With a bucket on your head the only place you can communicate is through your arsehole ! With those handicap's is it any wonder you are clueless and spew shit ?

You are obviously not too bright!

The 'bucket on your head Avatar' could not be more appropriate in your case.

What's that word? You really are such a good one!

If I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it but first prove me wrong, never expect me to apologise just because I may have offended you or bruised your feelings.

You have - in my considerable experience over 10 years - never once admitted that you were wrong about anything - to anybody - ever. Even when it's been glaring. That's arrogance in extremis and an inferiority complex in play.

As far as offended me or bruised my feelings goes, you flatter yourself. Not a flicker, even when you've had one of your famous periodic outbursts of stupidity. The latest being what you've done to ruin quite a good thing in here. All in the name of what?

Having looked at the MH17 thread. You weighed in on July 18th for the first time, Within that and your next post you came out with a contemptuous comment on Kerry's evidence (he said it pointed compellingly to Russia). Despite your earlier accusation at no time did I mention the man. In the second post you accept implicitly and vigorously defend the Russian claim they had proof MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter. That, despite the fact no such proof was ever produced. Afterwards, the story moved on silently from Ukrainian fighters to unanimous acceptance that the tragedy was as a result of a Russian made SAM. Absolutely typical of your hypocrisy and highlighting just how good a useful idiot you are. Well, as in this thread.

Another diatribe from you ..... as usual just a personal rant about me! Why do you find me such a threat because I won't apologise to you and admit to being 'wrong' when you have never shown that to be so. Even here you are, shall we say selective.

You made your comment on MH17 on your other Forum ..... the forum that is exciting as watching paint dry. The rest of your rant I won't even waste time refuting.


So .... back to Iran! I received this by e-mail this morning. Try this as a pretty interesting interview on Iran as it is seen by those who have been there recently and also know the long history of Persia/Iran and the reality of events ..... somewhat different from the stories you spout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Zb8615ib0&feature=youtu.be

[cyprusgrump]

Just like the people that filmed the aircraft flying into the Twin Towers eh...? Obviously placed there specifically for propaganda reasons...

As I've said on countless occasions, you are wasting your time. The man's totally uninterested in any arguments anybody has other than his own. Despite the fact that 90% of his output is directed at them. Although, the reality is whilst he routinely berates other people's views he actually has little himself in the way of original opinions. He gets them all from others. Mostly via "independent" sites or through the likes of Russian propaganda sources (whether he realises it or not). That, basically in order to fill out his extreme prejudices. Plain old confirmation bias.

In that dogged pursuit, over the years, he's made more enemies (some to the point of actually wanting to do something about it) than you can shake a stick at.

Here, you've brought up a subject close to his heart. He implicitly believes that 9/11 was staged and that the there are aspects which prove it. Nothing that most people believe about that day is apparently true and all the associated evidence is false - contrived.

It's called a conspiracy theory.

Right - off to Paphitis land, where, what with the bush fires and NZ volcano eruption, it seems my long planned holiday has taken on a sort of "natural disasters tour" dimension.

I realise that, I just enjoy baiting him...

The great thing about the loony is that it only cost me 14 words to get him to hammer at his keyboard for ages in response!

Of course he will never accept the coincidences of two people catching an event being plausible... Only his version is acceptable despite just about everybody having a camera in their pockets these days...

Where are you going in Oz, we stopped off in Sydney and had a great time en route to NZ last year... I can post some smoke-free pictures of the place if you like...?

[Londonrake]

Where are you going in Oz, we stopped off in Sydney and had a great time en route to NZ last year... I can post some smoke-free pictures of the place if you like...?

Actually, we're stopping off in Sydney on our way to NZ.

It's a Golden anniversary thing.

Ignoring the Heathrow bit. Flying to Perth, via Singapore (20 hours ). A couple of days in Perth then on the Indian/Pacific train, all the way across the Aus outback to Sydney (2000+ miles). A whistle-stop in Adelaide on the way. 3 days in Sydney and then on Celebrity Solstice to do a couple of weeks cruising around NZ. Back home Sydney/Singapore (22 hours )

I've been to Sydney quite a few times (you paid ) so am not really bothered. Although, having monitored their weather they seem to have had a lot of rain and thunder in the past week or so. Looks OK.

[cyprusgrump]

Where are you going in Oz, we stopped off in Sydney and had a great time en route to NZ last year... I can post some smoke-free pictures of the place if you like...?

Actually, we're stopping off in Sydney on our way to NZ.

It's a Golden anniversary thing.

Ignoring the Heathrow bit. Flying to Perth, via Singapore (20 hours ). A couple of days in Perth then on the Indian/Pacific train, all the way across the Aus outback to Sydney (2000+ miles). A whistle-stop in Adelaide on the way. 3 days in Sydney and then on Celebrity Solstice to do a couple of weeks cruising around NZ. Back home Sydney/Singapore (22 hours )

I've been to Sydney quite a few times (you paid ) so am not really bothered. Although, having monitored their weather they seem to have had a lot of rain and thunder in the past week or so. Looks OK.

Excellent!

We spent 5 weeks in NZ last year - loved it!

[Londonrake]

Another diatribe from you ..... as usual just a personal rant about me! Why do you find me such a threat because I won't apologise to you and admit to being 'wrong' when you have never shown that to be so. Even here you are, shall we say selective.

You made your comment on MH17 on your other Forum ..... the forum that is exciting as watching paint dry. The rest of your rant I won't even waste time refuting.

So .... back to Iran! I received this by e-mail this morning. Try this as a pretty interesting interview on Iran as it is seen by those who have been there recently and also know the long history of Persia/Iran and the reality of events ..... somewhat different from the stories you spout:

I don't know how many times I have to post quotes from you to show just how hypocritical you are when it comes to complaining about personal comments.

You are and never have been a "threat". We both know that. The time for any apology - which would have been entirely appropriate, considering and would have ended the matter there-and-then - has long passed. I think somebody who's interminably in conflict with just about all comers, on forums various, who hasn't once admitted to ever being wrong about absolutely anything over a 10 year period is pretty arrogant. There's also clearly a fear of the admission which points to ................ something wrong. You've made that a big deal, not me. I just keep pointing out the sobering fact.

Was it me who brought up MH17 or flight 655? I thought it was you. But nevertheless what I said was true. I made no reference to Kerry and you fully backed an unsupported - subsequently quietly dropped - claim from the Russian's whilst at the same time decrying Kerry's comments on the evidence "compellingly pointing to Russia". That's hypocritical.

You keep saying you won't waste any time but...................... then you do!

Have I "spouted" stories? For 3 days after the Ukrainian flight was shot down the Iranian regime lied about it. The idea that they were "gathering information" for that time is clearly a load of desperate bollocks. Despite your goody two-shoes claim, you jumped in to do the usual thing - faithfully echo the version they were putting out, that the crash was due to a technical fault. I'm sure people can - and have - seen right through that crap.

You're a useful idiot. Available in forums to any anti-West regime. You've never once disagreed with absolutely anything any of them have come out with - ever. Points to ......................... something wrong.

[Robin Hood]

Londonrake:

Was it me who brought up MH17 or flight 655? I thought it was you

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No .... you referenced Lockerbie ..... because that suited your accusation of Iran being quite likely to have done it deliberately for political revenge.

I made no reference to Kerry and you fully backed an unsupported - subsequently quietly dropped - claim from the Russian's whilst at the same time decrying Kerry's comments on the evidence "compellingly pointing to Russia". That's hypocritical.

You did not join this forum until 29th Dec 2019 ....... so clearly the comment did not apply to one you made on this forum. Check the archives on CEF starting 17/07/2014, it will be your first response to the news of the MH17 crash ...... then you can apologise! As you are aware as a non member I do not have access to the CEF post data base or I would take great delight in rubbing your nose in it!

Have I "spouted" stories? For 3 days after the Ukrainian flight was shot down the Iranian regime lied about it. The idea that they were "gathering information" for that time is clearly a load of desperate bollocks. Despite your goody two-shoes claim, you jumped in to do the usual thing - faithfully echo the version they were putting out, that the crash was due to a technical fault. I'm sure people can - and have - seen right through that crap.

Again a selective reply! I posted that ‘..... I would wait for more information’ I made no statement as to what I thought the cause was because neither I or you or anyone else, had all the facts. Even the Ukraine's said it was mechanical failure to start with.

If you had ever worked in these countries you would realise they have a very strict pecking order. The guy who made the mistake (presumably) would not have known it was a commercial flight ......... it took time (how long?) for the news to get back. Then a rather cumbersome chain of command mobilises and denial would be the response until the facts all came out. It is YOU that leaps to an immediate and conclusive accusation because you have a paranoid obsession with anything evil you can possibly throw at all the ‘regimes’ and political characters you despise. With you there is no room for another view. So you spout the first things you read on YOUR MSM news sources with an unshakeable faith in their honesty and accuracy.

[cyprusgrump]

Londonrake:

Was it me who brought up MH17 or flight 655? I thought it was you

.
No .... you referenced Lockerbie ..... because that suited your accusation of Iran being quite likely to have done it deliberately for political revenge.

I made no reference to Kerry and you fully backed an unsupported - subsequently quietly dropped - claim from the Russian's whilst at the same time decrying Kerry's comments on the evidence "compellingly pointing to Russia". That's hypocritical.

You did not join this forum until 29th Dec 2019 ....... so clearly the comment did not apply to one you made on this forum. Check the archives on CEF starting 17/07/2014, it will be your first response to the news of the MH17 crash ...... then you can apologise! As you are aware as a non member I do not have access to the CEF post data base or I would take great delight in rubbing your nose in it!

Have I "spouted" stories? For 3 days after the Ukrainian flight was shot down the Iranian regime lied about it. The idea that they were "gathering information" for that time is clearly a load of desperate bollocks. Despite your goody two-shoes claim, you jumped in to do the usual thing - faithfully echo the version they were putting out, that the crash was due to a technical fault. I'm sure people can - and have - seen right through that crap.

Again a selective reply! I posted that ‘..... I would wait for more information’ I made no statement as to what I thought the cause was because neither I or you or anyone else, had all the facts. Even the Ukraine's said it was mechanical failure to start with.

If you had ever worked in these countries you would realise they have a very strict pecking order. The guy who made the mistake (presumably) would not have known it was a commercial flight ......... it took time (how long?) for the news to get back. Then a rather cumbersome chain of command mobilises and denial would be the response until the facts all came out. It is YOU that leaps to an immediate and conclusive accusation because you have a paranoid obsession with anything evil you can possibly throw at all the ‘regimes’ and political characters you despise. With you there is no room for another view. So you spout the first things you read on YOUR MSM news sources with an unshakeable faith in their honesty and accuracy.

You did tho...

You claimed it was mechanical failure and posted links to the failure of the Australian aircraft to prove it...

Do you need me to post your comment once again to remind you...?