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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 08, 2021 4:15 pm

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Well well well, if this is the best Newsmax has to offer in their reporting, then it is as bad as FoxNews. What an absolute hogwash, to compare a cop getting killed by drunk driver vs. cops murdering suspects unnecessarily with their guns and breaking the arm of a 73 year old woman with dementia and then having an orgasmic attack pleasuring each other by fist pumping.:roll:

Come on Paphitis, stop defending these cunt cops for god sake. :roll:


Why? What’s wrong with that? It’s a great piece of real journalism. :roll:


The example you have provided with the above, is a total shit reporting. :wink:


That’s because you have drunk the cool aid.

You need some Neesmax in your life to put things into perspective. You are only getting one side of the real story and facts.

Right now, if an ace murdering serial killer is gunned down by police, you would all be at BLM protests. :lol:


The real story is that a cop got killed by a drunk driver as thousands of people are every year. That is it. There is no need to explore how the drunk person felt about the police to somehow insinuate that she hit and killed the officer deliberately while driving drunk. She will be charged with vehicular manslaughter and sent to jail and rightly so. Almost most cops who murder suspects unnecessarily or violate citizens right by police brutality go on working as normal and retire with a huge pensions. :roll:


Right! When she realized she stuffed up, she made sure to take a cop with her. Just like she said she would. Looks pre-meditated.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 09, 2021 12:44 am

It gets worse than this. The media will have us believe that US Poluce are hunting and shooting black Anericans. That there is some systemic racism.

Well, I’ve been doing some research about this.

Apparently, blacks in US Police forces are apparently very on par with their population. So it seems US Police forces are an equal opportunity employer.

Second, I have statistics on US Police Shootings. Each year, about 1000 people are shot by police in America. American whites account for about 45.6% of these shootings, Blacks about 23.3%, Hispanics 17.9%, and Other 4.4%.

So it seems the US Police Forces are an equal opportunity killer too. :lol:

Which makes BLM a total sham! :roll:

Other stats that are noteworthy is the fact that police shootings in America are fairly high. Higher than any EU member State, Canada, Australia, NZ etc etc.

But they are nowhere near the worst. Probably about midstream. So who are the highest? Well the highest is the socialist tin pot regime of Venezuela. And it seems that the top end is dominated by socialist countries such as Venezuela, China, et al. You know, those very countries BLM look up to.

In America’s case, I believe shootings can be attributed to gun culture. US cops are very edgy about the volume of guns in US society. It’s easy to get a gun in America. Probably too easy. There is a lack of vetting gun owners. You can legally carry a gun in your glove box in America. US police assume with high probability that every traffic stop is potentially of an armed citizen. And they get shot at regularly. There are thousands of shootings on US Police each year. So for them, they feel like they are playing Russian Roulette.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 09, 2021 1:06 am

And the statistics seem to corroborate everything I have said.

In 2020, about 450 US Police were shot dead in the line of duty. Almost half the amount of those killed by police.

That too is also much higher that EU countries, Canada and Australia.

So what does this mean? It means that a US Police officer has about a 1000 times multiple bigger chance of being shot than any member of the public. Now you might say, that is part of the job right? They signed up to it.

But in comparison, in Australia there was something like only 2 police officers shot for the year and they shot 5 citizens. Figures which seem to be similar to most EU countries.

So the numbers just don’t add up to what the media narrative seems to portray. :roll:
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun May 09, 2021 11:38 pm

Paphitis, the time you spent doing your above research was all for nothing really, because you got almost everything wrong. :D

First of all, there were about 260 cops killed in the line of duty in 2020, however, that is almost 100% increase from 2019, so it appears that people are fighting back against the police, which is likely to get worse. That was the whole purpose for the creation of the 2nd amendment, for the people to arm themselves against tyrannical governments, or in this case, against tyrannical police forces. The police better learn that they will lose the gun war if they continue to act like cunts against the citizens.

Secondly, the high number of killings in Venezuela is not done by the police per se, but by the Security Forces. It is politically a very troubled country, so let’s not compare apples and oranges. Venezuela being a socialist country has nothing to do with the high number of deaths. Australia and most western countries are also a “socialist” countries in one form or the other, and just because some may have conservative leaders, it doesn’t make them any less “socialist” countries. :wink:

MSM points out the unjustifiable killings/murders of suspects by the police. Of course, there are many justifiable killings by the police, which is expected. The last year or two, we have seen too many murders by the police, mostly on blacks. The cops seem to believe that they are James Bond with license to kill. But now some are starting to go to prison for their illegal actions and good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun May 09, 2021 11:44 pm

Can you believe this cunt cop for doing this? :shock:

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An Alabama cop who fatally shot a suicidal man was found guilty of murder and faces decades behind bars, reports say

Taylor Ardrey
Sat, May 8, 2021, 5:43 PM·

An Alabama cop was found guilty of killing a suicidal man at his home in 2018, according to reports.

William Darby shot a man who had a gun to his head and told 911 he was going to kill himself.

Darby faces 20 years to life behind bars, according to the New York Times.

A Huntsville, Alabama cop faces 20 years to life behind bars after he was found guilty of killing a 49-year-old suicidal man in 2018, according to The New York Times.

A Madison County, Alabama jury convicted William Ben Darby of murder Friday for the death of Jeffrey Parker, WHNT-TV and AL.com reported. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-cop-fata ... 21050.html
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Tue May 11, 2021 4:22 pm

Can you believe this. A cop murders, tried and convicted, but out on bail, goes on leave and still gets his salary. :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Officer convicted of murder still gets paid in Alabama

Tue, May 11, 2021, 2:50 PM

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (AP) — An Alabama police officer convicted of murder for shooting a suicidal man who was holding a gun to his own head has been taken off duty but will continue to be paid, the city of Huntsville said.

Officer William Darby, who was initially placed on desk duty following the killing of Jeffrey Parker in 2018, can't continue working as an officer because of the conviction and went on leave Monday, city spokeswoman Lucy DeButy told news outlets.

"This is the normal process until formal proceedings under the City of Huntsville’s personnel policies and procedures are complete,” she said in a statement. Darby was freed on $100,000 bond soon after the verdict on Friday.

While Mayor Tommy Battle, a Republican, and Police Chief Mark McMurray have disagreed publicly with the jurors' decision, Alabama Democratic Party executive director Wade Perry criticized the city's move to keep paying Darby.

“He’s a convicted murderer. He shouldn’t get another day’s pay. Fire him. And the police chief,” Perry said in a statement.

Darby shot Parker, 49, moments after joining two other officers who had responded to a 911 call from the man, who said he was armed and planned to kill himself. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/officer-conv ... 14756.html
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 13, 2021 6:17 am

Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, the time you spent doing your above research was all for nothing really, because you got almost everything wrong. :D

First of all, there were about 260 cops killed in the line of duty in 2020, however, that is almost 100% increase from 2019, so it appears that people are fighting back against the police, which is likely to get worse. That was the whole purpose for the creation of the 2nd amendment, for the people to arm themselves against tyrannical governments, or in this case, against tyrannical police forces. The police better learn that they will lose the gun war if they continue to act like cunts against the citizens.

Secondly, the high number of killings in Venezuela is not done by the police per se, but by the Security Forces. It is politically a very troubled country, so let’s not compare apples and oranges. Venezuela being a socialist country has nothing to do with the high number of deaths. Australia and most western countries are also a “socialist” countries in one form or the other, and just because some may have conservative leaders, it doesn’t make them any less “socialist” countries. :wink:

MSM points out the unjustifiable killings/murders of suspects by the police. Of course, there are many justifiable killings by the police, which is expected. The last year or two, we have seen too many murders by the police, mostly on blacks. The cops seem to believe that they are James Bond with license to kill. But now some are starting to go to prison for their illegal actions and good riddance to bad rubbish.


Now why would anyone want to fight back? Seems utterly stupid and pointless really.

Kikapu, I bet I could have a 1000 interactions with US police and not have an issue. Why? Because I’ll do as I’m told. I’ll listen to them, try hard to be polite and respectful, and obedient. As a result I doubt I’ll have any major problems.

I might get upset with them occasionally, and probably the worst thing they might get from me is a little lip service at the most. But generally it would be compliance.

As a result, I’ll never get arrested. They will never pull out a gun or taxer at me as I’ll not be armed and will never act in a way where they feel threatened by me.

If everyone did that in the US, there would be no police shootings. You make it sound like they just willy Billy shoot or kill people. That’s not the case. They operate in a high crime society and a heavily armed society. That’s pretty scary in itself. Hence why so many are shot.

Let’s take your numbers as being correct. I’m not doubting them. But 264 police officers shot is just beyond ridiculous. Police are far more likely to be killed in a shooting than any US Citizen is, black or white or anything else for that matter.

So I can understand why 1000 is citizens are also shot and some of them without proper cause as well.

If we were real about human rights and conserving life, we would teach people to respect law enforcement and not be arseholes in public. If people mellowed out, there wouldn’t be a need for police to touch their guns or tazers.

They have a right to feel safe at work and their job is anything but safe.

If you are going to be arrested, little point resisting. It can only make matters worse. It’s after you can defend yourself with an attorney or through the police ombudsman etc.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu May 13, 2021 3:00 pm

The problem is, the cops do not treat everyone the same way, and when certain group of people constantly get harassed by the police and have their rights abused, then they end up confronting the police and not trust the police to not be harmed by them and be arrested for victimless “crimes”. Look at how the police made their first contact with Floyd, which was officer had his gun on Floyd’s head as he sat in his car for allegedly passing $20 counterfeit money, to which escalated him being murdered. I doubt the police would have reacted the same way to you or me under the same circumstances.

By the way, the breakdown on the cops dying in line of duty in 2020, only about 50 are gun related. The rest are various other reasons not having direct contact with suspects, including Covid-19 cases. That is a small number vs.the 1,000 suspects the cops shoot and kill each year.


2020 was one of the deadliest years for law enforcement officers on record

By Harmeet Kaur, CNN
Updated 1234 GMT (2034 HKT) January 12, 2021
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Firearms-related deaths were second most common.

After Covid-19, getting shot was the second most common cause of line of duty deaths last year.
Forty-eight officers were shot and killed on the job last year, compared to 51 in 2019, the report stated. Thirty of those officers were killed by a handgun, 13 were killed by a rifle and one was killed with their own weapon. The type of weapon used in the four other deaths is not yet known.

The largest number of firearms-related deaths came while officers were investigating a suspicious person or activity, with 11 such fatalities. Seven were responding to domestic disturbance calls.
Traffic-related incidents were the third leading cause of line of duty deaths, though the number has been trending down in decades, according to the report.

Last year, 44 officers were killed in traffic incidents, with 18 in crashes with another vehicle, 15 struck on the side of the road, eight in single vehicle crashes and three in motorcycle crashes. In 2019, 43 officers died in traffic incidents.
Overall, city law enforcement officers were the hardest hit last year, with 122 line of duty deaths, the report stated. Next were sheriffs with 68 deaths, followed by 31 state and highway patrol deaths.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/us/2 ... index.html
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 13, 2021 3:50 pm

Kikapu wrote:The problem is, the cops do not treat everyone the same way, and when certain group of people constantly get harassed by the police and have their rights abused, then they end up confronting the police and not trust the police to not be harmed by them and be arrested for victimless “crimes”. Look at how the police made their first contact with Floyd, which was officer had his gun on Floyd’s head as he sat in his car for allegedly passing $20 counterfeit money, to which escalated him being murdered. I doubt the police would have reacted the same way to you or me under the same circumstances.

By the way, the breakdown on the cops dying in line of duty in 2020, only about 50 are gun related. The rest are various other reasons not having direct contact with suspects, including Covid-19 cases. That is a small number vs.the 1,000 suspects the cops shoot and kill each year.


2020 was one of the deadliest years for law enforcement officers on record

By Harmeet Kaur, CNN
Updated 1234 GMT (2034 HKT) January 12, 2021
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
Firearms-related deaths were second most common.

After Covid-19, getting shot was the second most common cause of line of duty deaths last year.
Forty-eight officers were shot and killed on the job last year, compared to 51 in 2019, the report stated. Thirty of those officers were killed by a handgun, 13 were killed by a rifle and one was killed with their own weapon. The type of weapon used in the four other deaths is not yet known.

The largest number of firearms-related deaths came while officers were investigating a suspicious person or activity, with 11 such fatalities. Seven were responding to domestic disturbance calls.
Traffic-related incidents were the third leading cause of line of duty deaths, though the number has been trending down in decades, according to the report.

Last year, 44 officers were killed in traffic incidents, with 18 in crashes with another vehicle, 15 struck on the side of the road, eight in single vehicle crashes and three in motorcycle crashes. In 2019, 43 officers died in traffic incidents.
Overall, city law enforcement officers were the hardest hit last year, with 122 line of duty deaths, the report stated. Next were sheriffs with 68 deaths, followed by 31 state and highway patrol deaths.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/us/2 ... index.html


Nonsense they don't treat everyone the same.

Facts are, if you are no threat to them, I don't see how any cop could possibly pull out a gun or tazer. If you are a threat, then it could happen. depends on the situation.

If people just chill out and act decently, then there is zero chance of getting shot. if you're holding a gun or other lethal weapon, then you are taking a big chance there.

Cops are the same everywhere.

Australian cops are not immune from bashing people around in custody or having an "accident" down a dangerous staircase.

It depends on how you behave. They wouldn't doing it for the sake of being arseholes if you are not an arsehole.

A Cypriot girl from Melbourne got the royal treatment by Victorian Police last year when she was being a right royal bitch to police at a check point. They waved her through but the next day, she copped it big time and those police were not friendly. They smashed her window and dragged her out by the neck and hair.

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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 13, 2021 3:55 pm

Kikapu wrote:The problem is, the cops do not treat everyone the same way, and when certain group of people constantly get harassed by the police and have their rights abused, then they end up confronting the police and not trust the police to not be harmed by them and be arrested for victimless “crimes”. Look at how the police made their first contact with Floyd, which was officer had his gun on Floyd’s head as he sat in his car for allegedly passing $20 counterfeit money, to which escalated him being murdered. I doubt the police would have reacted the same way to you or me under the same circumstances.

By the way, the breakdown on the cops dying in line of duty in 2020, only about 50 are gun related. The rest are various other reasons not having direct contact with suspects, including Covid-19 cases. That is a small number vs.the 1,000 suspects the cops shoot and kill each year.


2020 was one of the deadliest years for law enforcement officers on record

By Harmeet Kaur, CNN
Updated 1234 GMT (2034 HKT) January 12, 2021
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
Firearms-related deaths were second most common.

After Covid-19, getting shot was the second most common cause of line of duty deaths last year.
Forty-eight officers were shot and killed on the job last year, compared to 51 in 2019, the report stated. Thirty of those officers were killed by a handgun, 13 were killed by a rifle and one was killed with their own weapon. The type of weapon used in the four other deaths is not yet known.

The largest number of firearms-related deaths came while officers were investigating a suspicious person or activity, with 11 such fatalities. Seven were responding to domestic disturbance calls.
Traffic-related incidents were the third leading cause of line of duty deaths, though the number has been trending down in decades, according to the report.

Last year, 44 officers were killed in traffic incidents, with 18 in crashes with another vehicle, 15 struck on the side of the road, eight in single vehicle crashes and three in motorcycle crashes. In 2019, 43 officers died in traffic incidents.
Overall, city law enforcement officers were the hardest hit last year, with 122 line of duty deaths, the report stated. Next were sheriffs with 68 deaths, followed by 31 state and highway patrol deaths.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/us/2 ... index.html


Put it this way kiks. Getting pulled over by police is a massive bummer, especially since they are probably pulling you over on some misdemeanor traffic offence and issue you with a fine. No one likes that.

But you and I can have 10,000 interactions with US police and there would be ZERO chance they would pull out a gun. I do not fear them because I know I'm not going to do anything stupid that could put me in any type of danger. I'm sure you are the same.

I'll never carry a gun with me in the US. Even though its allowed, it's just completely unnecessary. Unless of course you are going shooting for some game. Just make sure you have all the permits and the weapons are secure and out of sight and made safe. Brandishing guns like you are in a western is just total stupidity.
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