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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:15 am

Hydrogen airships have “form”. :shock:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:37 pm



...can this guy be called a pilot, he is after all flying a plane.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:29 pm

We have had this discussion before, but here it is again.

This is not likely to affect our friend Paphitis to the rest of his flying career, but perhaps when flying as a retired non-revenue passenger in the back of the plane. :wink:

Why airplanes might soon have just one pilot
Jacopo Prisco, CNN • Published 13th January 2022

(CNN) — If you boarded a passenger plane in 1950 and peeked into the cockpit, you would have seen five people in there (almost certainly men): two pilots, a radio operator, a navigator and a flight engineer.

Over the years, technical advances in radio communications, navigation systems and on-board monitoring equipment gradually removed the need for the last three, making it possible to safely fly a passenger plane with just two pilots. That has been the norm in commercial aviation for about 30 years.

Soon, however, things could streamline further, and one of the two remaining pilots -- technically the first officer -- could soon go, leaving behind only the captain. Many smaller and military aircraft are already manned by a single pilot, but for commercial aviation this would mean venturing into a brave new world. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ ... index.html
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:28 pm

Then the hostess wanders back and asks "Is anybody here familiar with Microsoft Flight Simulator?" :shock: :lol:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:40 pm

Londonrake wrote:Then the hostess wanders back and asks "Is anybody here familiar with Microsoft Flight Simulator?" :shock: :lol:

Paphitis with a G&T drink in his hand would say, “well my dear, I use to know it but no more, but let me just google it and see if it refreshes my memory”! :D
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Thu May 19, 2022 6:36 pm

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 21, 2022 8:00 pm

I thought with the rise of fuel cost, hence higher ticket prices, people would start lying less.

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US airlines like Delta and United are so desperate for pilots they are dropping some requirements and considering cutting training hours to get more pilots flying sooner

Taylor Rains
Sat, May 21, 2022, 2:52 PM

US airlines are once again grappling with the pilot shortage as travel demand skyrockets.

Regional carrier Republic Airways is considering reducing training requirements from 1,500 to 750 hours.

Senator Lindsay Graham reportedly could propose legislation that would increase the mandatory pilot retirement age from 65 to 67. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-airlines- ... 00170.html
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:55 pm

...blame Southwest Airlines.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:I thought with the rise of fuel cost, hence higher ticket prices, people would start lying less.

Business Insider

US airlines like Delta and United are so desperate for pilots they are dropping some requirements and considering cutting training hours to get more pilots flying sooner

Taylor Rains
Sat, May 21, 2022, 2:52 PM

US airlines are once again grappling with the pilot shortage as travel demand skyrockets.

Regional carrier Republic Airways is considering reducing training requirements from 1,500 to 750 hours.

Senator Lindsay Graham reportedly could propose legislation that would increase the mandatory pilot retirement age from 65 to 67. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-airlines- ... 00170.html


That's not true at all.

I don't know what you mean by 750 to 1500 hours. You can get a job in the US with 300 hours, even at United but there is a very big catch. About 5 to 10 years as a second officer on B757, B767, B777 or B787 .

You can even get into the United Aviate Program from high school if you pay $150000 USD - again expect about 10 years as a second officer on long haul wide body.

Training requirements are regulated by the FAA and have never been reduced for as long as I have been flying.

And after Ground School, there is the regulatory requirement of 100 hours of line training. The average however is more like 150 hours. 200 hours for ex military rotor heads, and closer to 110 for ex US military fix wing. So all in all, United actually exceeds the minimum regulatory minimums.

High Time Pilots usually end up on short to medium haul B737. High time visa holders are now ending up at United Express but are guaranteed a command upgrade within 18 months, and also guaranteed Direct Entry Command into mainline United B737. Reason, it's much harder doing short haul in a B737 (some flights are 25 minutes) than it is long haul on a B787.

There is however some bias towards military pilots, who are a bit protected and usually it's these pilots who get the least training, except for Rotor Converts from the military who go through massive retraining into fix wing.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:18 pm

Ground School for rotorheads is 6 months for CPL fixed wing conversion and then 3 months of Ground School, Induction and Simulator (11 sessions I think)

Fixed wing is 3 months of Ground School, Induction, and Simulator Endorsements Training (7 sessions).

Sim sessions are 4 hours of which 2 hours are as Pilot Flying and 2 hours are as pilot Monitoring.

If you need more time, they give you an extra 2 sim sessions but that's it. Unless you are a protected species and you will probably pass after session 7.

Then it's a Base Check with a senior Checker.

Then 100 hours of line Training. Most do about 150 hours of line training. Rotor Converts about 200 hours (ex US military Blackhawk and Apache pilots usually) The FAA regulatory requirement is 100 hours. Military guys have a much easier pathway and also given more rope. Vets are more or less handed jobs as a thank yoiu for their service to America.

Then you get your check to line.

United Aviate cadets do 3 years of basic training before they get to the Ground School - 3 months for them with 7 sim sessions, then straight onto long haul as a Second Officer for many years.
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