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[Londonrake]

The article's basically a load of rubbish.

There's only a passing reference to the SBAs and even there they get it wrong.

They're obviously taking the theoretical maximum range of the S400 and extrapolating to its being able to shoot down aircraft at low level throughout.

They're doing what some do in here, regarding all aspects of the Russian military from a Marvel comics point of view. Missiles - any missiles - are still subject to the laws of physics. They have a destroy probability zone, an envelope. For any ground launched missile it has an increasing engagement height with distance parameter. Not to mention having to detect a target in the first place. Even if Turkey were to deploy the missiles to Cyprus (and why on earth would they do that??) they would still have to deal with the distance and terrain involved. From mainland Turkey they just couldn't do it.

What the article doesn't attempt to explain is why Turkey would want to shoot down British aircraft in Cyprus in the first place. As appealing an idea that might be to some.

Erdogan should aim his shiny new missiles at the Turkish economy. That's his biggest enemy.

[B25]

.... why Turkey would want to shoot down British aircraft in Cyprus in the first place.

Exactly, since the British are Turkeys greatest fan and the biggest Turkish cock suckers going.

Given also, that it was the British that gave Turkey the green light in 1974 to invade and did nothing.

[Londonrake]

.... why Turkey would want to shoot down British aircraft in Cyprus in the first place.

Exactly, since the British are Turkeys greatest fan and the biggest Turkish cock suckers going.

Given also, that it was the British that gave Turkey the green light in 1974 to invade and did nothing.

And in other threads we have people, obviously quite intelligent, reasonable and sincere people, talking about the need to put the events of nearly 50 years ago behind and move on together in the name of a common Cypriot bond.

There's no answering your claims because they're just ridiculous, foul-mouthed rants and a manifestation of the desire to blame somebody else.

Like Hood, I generally try to stay out of Cyprus problem discussions but I do read them all. If what goes on in here is anything to go by then I suspect the chances of there ever being a meaningful solution for this island will be pretty much zero. Which is a very great pity.

[Maximus]

hang on a minute, there are two other guarantors that are supposed to guarantee the sovereign integrity of the republic of Cyprus.

In the meantime, the third one is occupying the island, is changing the country's demographics and is now claiming parts of Cyprus's EEZ for herself.

Is that someone elses fault as well?

Cyprus was well and truly shafted by much greater powers, and it was all pre-planned.

[B25]

.... why Turkey would want to shoot down British aircraft in Cyprus in the first place.

Exactly, since the British are Turkeys greatest fan and the biggest Turkish cock suckers going.

Given also, that it was the British that gave Turkey the green light in 1974 to invade and did nothing.

And in other threads we have people, obviously quite intelligent, reasonable and sincere people, talking about the need to put the events of nearly 50 years ago behind and move on together in the name of a common Cypriot bond.

There's no answering your claims because they're just ridiculous, foul-mouthed rants and a manifestation of the desire to blame somebody else.

Like Hood, I generally try to stay out of Cyprus problem discussions but I do read them all. If what goes on in here is anything to go by then I suspect the chances of there ever being a meaningful solution for this island will be pretty much zero. Which is a very great pity.

Typical reply when you have no argument, just rubbish what was said and insult the poster.
The UK is a staunch supporter of Turkey, if you haven’t realised that you must be f sleeping.
Turkey entered Cyprus on the Brits say so hence no action from the Brits, says it all, period.

[Londonrake]

The OP’s about Turkey’s procurement of the S400.

It was suggested by Kurupetos, via an article in Greek (I imagine to throw me), that they posed a threat to aircraft at Akrotiri (well, Episkopi apparently ) I pointed out the shortcomings in the article. A single sentence related to his point which was factually incorrect on the SBAs and I added the technical, missile related reasons, why the idea’s a fantasy anyway. I asked why Turkey would want to shoot down UK aircraft over Cyprus. The same question could be asked about any other NATO planes. It’s a ridiculous idea.

You came back with a “cock sucking” response and hypocritically “rubbished” it, then went off back to 1974. Nothing to do with what was being discussed. Pointing out it was a foul-mouthed rant wasn’t insulting the poster, it was just highlighting the fact.

If you want to start an argument about 1974, there’s an entire section devoted to it on this forum.

[miltiades]

.... why Turkey would want to shoot down British aircraft in Cyprus in the first place.

Exactly, since the British are Turkeys greatest fan and the biggest Turkish cock suckers going.

Given also, that it was the British that gave Turkey the green light in 1974 to invade and did nothing.

Not Britain mate. The fucking Greek junta along with the Cypriot fanatics dreaming of ENOSIS. Britain is guilty of many acts against Cyprus but not on giving Turkey the green light. The poushtokalamares who ruled Greece did, and the Cypriot extremists fell for it.

[B25]

The OP’s about Turkey’s procurement of the S400.

It was suggested by Kurupetos, via an article in Greek (I imagine to throw me), that they posed a threat to aircraft at Akrotiri (well, Episkopi apparently ) I pointed out the shortcomings in the article. A single sentence related to his point which was factually incorrect on the SBAs and I added the technical, missile related reasons, why the idea’s a fantasy anyway. I asked why Turkey would want to shoot down UK aircraft over Cyprus. The same question could be asked about any other NATO planes. It’s a ridiculous idea.

You came back with a “cock sucking” response and hypocritically “rubbished” it, then went off back to 1974. Nothing to do with what was being discussed. Pointing out it was a foul-mouthed rant wasn’t insulting the poster, it was just highlighting the fact.

If you want to start an argument about 1974, there’s an entire section devoted to it on this forum.

You are the one that suggested that Turkey would not blow up British planes in Cyprus, I merely pointed out why they wouldn't since the UK is Turkey's greatest supporter. If you cannot understand the inter-relationship between S400/Britain/Cyprus, then there is no point conversing with you as you appear to think that the sun shines out of the UK ass, and that have had no hand in the Cyprus problem.

[Londonrake]

You are the one that suggested that Turkey would not blow up British planes in Cyprus, I merely pointed out why they wouldn't since the UK is Turkey's greatest supporter. If you cannot understand the inter-relationship between S400/Britain/Cyprus, then there is no point conversing with you as you appear to think that the sun shines out of the UK ass, and that have had no hand in the Cyprus problem.

No, I didn’t.

Actually, it was Kureptous and his article which suggested that the S400 was a matter of concern to the British re their aircraft in Cyprus. Not me. If you recollect I said it was a ridiculous idea. Twice. It seems at least we agree on that. Although for different reasons. Mine the reality, yours some sort of conspiracy theory.

It’s Kureptous you mostly differ with. He thinks Turkey could shoot down UK planes for some mysterious reason, you seem to believe they’re as safe as houses here for a different mysterious reason.

The rest of your post has nothing at all to do with the OP and who you “converse” with - or not - is your concern.

[Paphitis]

Gee! Any RAF aircraft from Akrotiri are well shielded just by the curvature of the earth alone as well as the Troodos.

I doubt the Brits actually give a stuff.

Turkey would get into a lot of trouble even if it tried to attempt the impossible. They have a lot more to lose. They would be in complete violation of NATO and will suffer an embargo.