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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:47 pm

CMIRS director Mine Yucel underlined that research in the last ten years has constantly revealed a perception among Turkish Cypriots that they are going to cease to exist.

“Fact or not, this is the perception,” said Yucel, adding that the latest attacks by Turkish officials and nationals against Mustafa Akinci for his comments on Turkey’s Syria operations have increased support for the Turkish Cypriot leader.

“When we take into consideration this perception and the latest attacks, people feel the need to hold on to something to protect their identity. This has materialised in support for Mr Akinci.”

Yucel said their most recent survey, which was conducted after the tension with Turkey but has not yet been published, shows increased support for Akinci who was already leading the polls, further increased. Elections for the Turkish Cypriot community’s leadership will be held next April.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/10/27/surv ... uarantees/



...survey shows that Cypriots have their own opinions, when it comes to comparing them to "Greeks", and "Turks".
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:10 pm

he has been attacked by fascists in trnc, by erdogan and the rest of akp as well as mhp. and there he is standing tall saying what he thinks is right.

fighting will not solve anything dialog will.

hang on a minute, what happened to the puppet of ankara.

assholes here never appreciated akinci. i hope he stands again but judging by the games anastasiades is playing he will not stand adn there goes the chnace of peace with him.

on your knees boys and say how sorry you are, he may just change his mind.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:15 am

...well it is election time, and it is no coincidence that Akinci will defend himself, now.

He will run, and i will not be surprised when Disy joins with his Party to present a common position, whether it is in (emulation of) opposition to AKEL (who might do the same) because of their success in the EU elections, or because the shear momentum of the Cyprus Problem is coming to a climax where something new evolves that neither adversary was willing to consider, before.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:57 pm

you really clearly have not got a clue about akinci. he is no ordinary politician. he said he will serve one term and if it looks like anastasiades will not play ball, he already said he will not stand again. he still has not said whether he will stand or not. he is waiting for a sign whether imbastardo wishes to solve the problem or just play silly buggers. if it is sillybuggers he can go ahead and play with himself.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Sotos » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:08 pm

Akinci wouldn't be a "president" if not for Turkey ethnically cleansing and illegally occupying the north part of Cyprus. His whole career is based on the crimes of Turkey. He said what he said to gain more support from the TCs, whose greediness makes them believe that north Cyprus belongs to them.

The north part of Cyprus belongs mostly to Greek Cypriots. The TCs neither own, nor they have the power to illegally occupy north Cyprus. So Akinci can act for the votes all he wants, but in the end of the day he can be nothing but a puppet of Turkey, because without Turkey there is no "trnc" to be its "president".
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:05 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...well it is election time, and it is no coincidence that Akinci will defend himself, now.

He will run, and i will not be surprised when Disy joins with his Party to present a common position, whether it is in (emulation of) opposition to AKEL (who might do the same) because of their success in the EU elections, or because the shear momentum of the Cyprus Problem is coming to a climax where something new evolves that neither adversary was willing to consider, before.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby erolz66 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:08 pm

Sotos wrote: He said what he said to gain more support from the TCs, whose greediness makes them believe that north Cyprus belongs to them.


Does any of Cyprus belong to TC ? Is it greediness that makes some GC claim Cyprus is Greek - belongs to Greeks and only Greeks ?

Sotos wrote:The north part of Cyprus belongs mostly to Greek Cypriots. The TCs neither own, nor they have the power to illegally occupy north Cyprus. So Akinci can act for the votes all he wants, but in the end of the day he can be nothing but a puppet of Turkey, because without Turkey there is no "trnc" to be its "president".


The role as leader of the Turkish Cypriot community existed before 1974. It existed before 1960. You can get hung on the semantics of the word 'president' if you like (my local golf club has a president) but you seem to me to be suggesting that the Turkish Cypriot community have no right to elect or select a leader to represent them and only have one today because of Turkey ? As far as your are saying this , then you are part of the problem imo.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Sotos » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:19 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote: He said what he said to gain more support from the TCs, whose greediness makes them believe that north Cyprus belongs to them.


Does any of Cyprus belong to TC ? Is it greediness that makes some GC claim Cyprus is Greek - belongs to Greeks and only Greeks ?


Greek Cypriots (in general, there are exceptions) do not believe that Cyprus belongs only to themselves. On the other hand the Turkish Cypriots (in general, there are exceptions) do believe that the north belongs only to themselves.

erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote:The north part of Cyprus belongs mostly to Greek Cypriots. The TCs neither own, nor they have the power to illegally occupy north Cyprus. So Akinci can act for the votes all he wants, but in the end of the day he can be nothing but a puppet of Turkey, because without Turkey there is no "trnc" to be its "president".


The role as leader of the Turkish Cypriot community existed before 1974. It existed before 1960. You can get hung on the semantics of the word 'president' if you like (my local golf club has a president) but you seem to me to be suggesting that the Turkish Cypriot community have no right to elect or select a leader to represent them and only have one today because of Turkey ? As far as your are saying this , then you are part of the problem imo.


The ethnic cleansing and the illegal occupation are very real and not "semantics". If the Turkish Cypriots wanted to elect a leader for their community they could have done just that. "trnc president" does not equal "TC community leader". "trnc president" comes with territorial claims on the expense of Republic of Cyprus and also includes 10s of thousands of people who are not Turkish Cypriots. And while the position of "TC community leader" could exist without Turkey, the position of "trnc president" couldn't.

The problem that many TCs have with Turkey is neither the illegal occupation nor the ethnic cleansing (very few TCs care about that). The problem of those TCs with Turkey is that Turkey doesn't let them do as they wish with north Cyprus. Why should Turkey do that? Most of north Cyprus belongs to Greek Cypriots, and Turkey is the one which has the power to illegally occupy the north, and spends millions to maintain 40.000 occupation army and more millions to prop up the pseudo-state which would fail otherwise.

When Akinci chooses to collaborate with Turkey for the illegal occupation of Cyprus he is in no position to judge Turkey when Turkey is doing similar things elsewhere. And I doubt he gives a fuck about the Kurds. He is acting in that way to gain support from the most greedy among TCs who believe that they have a right to do as they wish in the north.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:08 pm

Sotos wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote: He said what he said to gain more support from the TCs, whose greediness makes them believe that north Cyprus belongs to them.


Does any of Cyprus belong to TC ? Is it greediness that makes some GC claim Cyprus is Greek - belongs to Greeks and only Greeks ?


Greek Cypriots (in general, there are exceptions) do not believe that Cyprus belongs only to themselves. On the other hand the Turkish Cypriots (in general, there are exceptions) do believe that the north belongs only to themselves.

erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote:The north part of Cyprus belongs mostly to Greek Cypriots. The TCs neither own, nor they have the power to illegally occupy north Cyprus. So Akinci can act for the votes all he wants, but in the end of the day he can be nothing but a puppet of Turkey, because without Turkey there is no "trnc" to be its "president".


The role as leader of the Turkish Cypriot community existed before 1974. It existed before 1960. You can get hung on the semantics of the word 'president' if you like (my local golf club has a president) but you seem to me to be suggesting that the Turkish Cypriot community have no right to elect or select a leader to represent them and only have one today because of Turkey ? As far as your are saying this , then you are part of the problem imo.


The ethnic cleansing and the illegal occupation are very real and not "semantics". If the Turkish Cypriots wanted to elect a leader for their community they could have done just that. "trnc president" does not equal "TC community leader". "trnc president" comes with territorial claims on the expense of Republic of Cyprus and also includes 10s of thousands of people who are not Turkish Cypriots. And while the position of "TC community leader" could exist without Turkey, the position of "trnc president" couldn't.

The problem that many TCs have with Turkey is neither the illegal occupation nor the ethnic cleansing (very few TCs care about that). The problem of those TCs with Turkey is that Turkey doesn't let them do as they wish with north Cyprus. Why should Turkey do that? Most of north Cyprus belongs to Greek Cypriots, and Turkey is the one which has the power to illegally occupy the north, and spends millions to maintain 40.000 occupation army and more millions to prop up the pseudo-state which would fail otherwise.

When Akinci chooses to collaborate with Turkey for the illegal occupation of Cyprus he is in no position to judge Turkey when Turkey is doing similar things elsewhere. And I doubt he gives a fuck about the Kurds. He is acting in that way to gain support from the most greedy among TCs who believe that they have a right to do as they wish in the north.

instead of jumping on the band wagon and starting with 1974, why don't you explain the ethnic cleansing that took place in 1963 you stupid boy.
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Re: ...Akinci ahead at the polls.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:09 pm

Sotos wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote: He said what he said to gain more support from the TCs, whose greediness makes them believe that north Cyprus belongs to them.


Does any of Cyprus belong to TC ? Is it greediness that makes some GC claim Cyprus is Greek - belongs to Greeks and only Greeks ?


Greek Cypriots (in general, there are exceptions) do not believe that Cyprus belongs only to themselves. On the other hand the Turkish Cypriots (in general, there are exceptions) do believe that the north belongs only to themselves.

erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote:The north part of Cyprus belongs mostly to Greek Cypriots. The TCs neither own, nor they have the power to illegally occupy north Cyprus. So Akinci can act for the votes all he wants, but in the end of the day he can be nothing but a puppet of Turkey, because without Turkey there is no "trnc" to be its "president".


The role as leader of the Turkish Cypriot community existed before 1974. It existed before 1960. You can get hung on the semantics of the word 'president' if you like (my local golf club has a president) but you seem to me to be suggesting that the Turkish Cypriot community have no right to elect or select a leader to represent them and only have one today because of Turkey ? As far as your are saying this , then you are part of the problem imo.


The ethnic cleansing and the illegal occupation are very real and not "semantics". If the Turkish Cypriots wanted to elect a leader for their community they could have done just that. "trnc president" does not equal "TC community leader". "trnc president" comes with territorial claims on the expense of Republic of Cyprus and also includes 10s of thousands of people who are not Turkish Cypriots. And while the position of "TC community leader" could exist without Turkey, the position of "trnc president" couldn't.

The problem that many TCs have with Turkey is neither the illegal occupation nor the ethnic cleansing (very few TCs care about that). The problem of those TCs with Turkey is that Turkey doesn't let them do as they wish with north Cyprus. Why should Turkey do that? Most of north Cyprus belongs to Greek Cypriots, and Turkey is the one which has the power to illegally occupy the north, and spends millions to maintain 40.000 occupation army and more millions to prop up the pseudo-state which would fail otherwise.

When Akinci chooses to collaborate with Turkey for the illegal occupation of Cyprus he is in no position to judge Turkey when Turkey is doing similar things elsewhere. And I doubt he gives a fuck about the Kurds. He is acting in that way to gain support from the most greedy among TCs who believe that they have a right to do as they wish in the north.

I agree with Sotos on the above post.
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