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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:We need to put things into perspective because there are Muslims holding official office within the Knesset.


I have no problem with putting things in to perspective. I have a problem when you make such appeals in favour of the 'tribe' you place yourself in and ignore and reject them when the same is used with regard to the 'tribe' you have placed yourself in opposition to.

Paphitis wrote:Plus, I do not see how Boris is racist towards Muslims.


These things are not binary. They are a matter of degrees. The degree to which Johnson has himself spoken or written or behaved in ways consistent with prejudice and intolerance on a whole range of issues is vastly greater than the degree someone like Corbyn has done so. Yet you and others will 'happily' label Corbyn as 'antisemitic' whilst seeking to deny any such comparable prejudice exits from people like Johnson. Why ?
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:46 pm

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Maximus wrote:So as long as a male appears to be female, he has a right to go in to womens changing rooms,

And the women cant complain about that....?

Dont you see or realize what is wrong with that.


No. Care to explain ?

(the women can complain of course but for me that would be a transphobic complaint.)


So I can appear to be a women and go in to womens changing rooms.

Right?


If you appear to be a woman to anyone viewing you in a changing room environment then yes. Why not ?

Imagine you are a woman, you go to the gym, you change and shower and notice nothing out of the ordinary that upsets you or would warrant any complaint. Then later in the day someone tells you that the person you showered next too was in fact born a male, who then had gender realignment surgery and in response to this you become outraged and upset. Where does that outrage come from ? What is it that you are upset about ? Such outrage and upset after the fact would for me clearly be correctly called tansphobic. Just go back to RH's definition of antisemitic - "Anti-Semitism has to be any threat, accusation, intent, verbal or physical, against a person who is Jewish ..... simply because they are Jewish." The outraged felt by this imaginary woman is simply because the person they are now upset about, now complaining about is transgender and nothing else. How can that not be fairly described as transphobic ?
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:49 pm

Paphitis wrote:Is anyone surprised that Labour = Debauchery?


That is the sort of silly and uninformed comment that shows why people with little capacity for common sense can confuse those with no capacity for common sense! Thank goodness they are the minority! :roll:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:54 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Is anyone surprised that Labour = Debauchery?


That is the sort of silly and uninformed comment that shows why people with little capacity for common sense can confuse those with no capacity for common sense! Thank goodness they are the minority! :roll:


My take on this is paphtitis real problem, despite what he claims, is with tolerance. He does not want our children, our society to be taught tolerance. He wants them them to be taught that his world view, his beliefs alone are the singular right ones and anyone who might have a different world view is a 'pervert'.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:00 pm

You may say it's uninformed, but in a few days I am going to be having a very good laugh.

In fact, it's going to be a hoot!

And yes, if you want all the debauchery in the world, go right ahead and vote for Looney Labour. They are about to get wiped out and good riddance to bad rubbish!

We don't need any antisemitism for this landslide.

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:08 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Is anyone surprised that Labour = Debauchery?


That is the sort of silly and uninformed comment that shows why people with little capacity for common sense can confuse those with no capacity for common sense! Thank goodness they are the minority! :roll:


My take on this is paphtitis real problem, despite what he claims, is with tolerance. He does not want our children, our society to be taught tolerance. He wants them them to be taught that his world view, his beliefs alone are the singular right ones and anyone who might have a different world view is a 'pervert'.


No I'm not tolerant to absolute stupidity and debauchery.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Is anyone surprised that Labour = Debauchery?


That is the sort of silly and uninformed comment that shows why people with little capacity for common sense can confuse those with no capacity for common sense! Thank goodness they are the minority! :roll:


My take on this is paphtitis real problem, despite what he claims, is with tolerance. He does not want our children, our society to be taught tolerance. He wants them them to be taught that his world view, his beliefs alone are the singular right ones and anyone who might have a different world view is a 'pervert'.


No I'm not tolerant to absolute stupidity and debauchery.


So you claim but actions always speak louder than words in my book. You clearly want our children to be taught to be intolerant of anything you personally declare and deem is 'wrong', which is basically anything different than yourself. You do not base 'wrong' on outcomes, on material harm done and metrics along spectrums like those. You base it on the spectrum of difference to you. If it is different to you, different to your opinions, different to beliefs, your faiths, your myths then by 'definition' such is 'wrong'.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:23 pm

lets face it bafidi is a total asshole which ever way you look at him. it must be all that standing upside down, too much blood to the brain i reckon but i do fear for his passengers in his taxi.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Maximus » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:27 pm

erolz66 wrote:
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erolz66 wrote:
If you appear to be a woman to anyone viewing you in a changing room environment then yes. Why not ?

Imagine you are a woman, you go to the gym, you change and shower and notice nothing out of the ordinary that upsets you or would warrant any complaint. Then later in the day someone tells you that the person you showered next too was in fact born a male, who then had gender realignment surgery and in response to this you become outraged and upset. Where does that outrage come from ? What is it that you are upset about ? Such outrage and upset after the fact would for me clearly be correctly called tansphobic. Just go back to RH's definition of antisemitic - "Anti-Semitism has to be any threat, accusation, intent, verbal or physical, against a person who is Jewish ..... simply because they are Jewish." The outraged felt by this imaginary woman is simply because the person they are now upset about, now complaining about is transgender and nothing else. How can that not be fairly described as transphobic ?


The first paragraph sounds like an ignorance is bliss statement.

On to the second paragraph.

What mere mortal can argue with such a woke explaination. I wont even try but defer to the gender God chose.

The only thing I will say is that this doesn't mean that the women is scared of a castrated man that dresses like a women.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:33 pm

The problem The Rabbi has and all those that are making these accusations of Labours anti-Semitism, is that it is a political agenda not a religious one !

A Labour government would no doubt be a threat to Israel as they regard their actions as being illegal and immoral and recognise the Palestinians terrible treatment at their hands. For a country whose people suffered so much at the hands of the Nazis, to then go on and repeat the same heinous acts against another people whilst they steal their land, really is contemptible. To not recognise that and to go on and condemn the accuser of being anti-Semitic, is just as contemptible. :x

Back to Labour’s ‘anti-Semitism’ ...........

I believe that the real reason for these accusations of Labour’s ‘anti-Semitism’ is that certain Labour policies, which are not given much Air-Time, are a serious threat to the existing banking and financial system. The Bankers and The Elite that enjoy the benefits of the present system, could see the people suddenly wake up as to how the Banks have screwed them for decades (Over 100 years) and are the reason for the need for austerity. As previously pointed out, Zionism, the Banking system and The Elite, are synonymous and all share a common fear. The implementation of a State Investment Bank would wipe billions off the profits of the Banks and thus would also directly affect the Elite. :shock:

But the Banks could not fight out in the open as it would have the very same result .... the People would wise up to the simple fact as to how these Bankers have become so rich whilst the people have faced austerity just to pay them for providing a service that would be far better for the economy and the people, if it was provided by the State. Anti-Semitism accusations are the ideal solution as it turns the attention from the sins of the Bankers and The Elites, who now as ‘Jews’, become the people under attack .... the victims! :roll:
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