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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:49 pm

Paphitis:
We are no puppet state of the US. We have a very clear foreign policy direction that sometimes differs substantially to the US.

But we are very happy to have the US as our ally. They are literally our best pals. Along with Canada, NZ and the UK, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea and of course, now France, in a very big way. Australian/French strategic partnership has come together in an extremely substantial way to the point we call each other partners and this partnership is strategic and a military partnership. It's an amazing revival that one after the French nuclear tests in the Pacific which basically caused France, Australia and NZ to withdraw all Consulates and cease diplomatic relations. Now we are seeing French Warships in Australia helping us with maintaining a strategic balance against China.

In fact all these countries are extremely close. The Singaporian Air Force for instance is completely based at RAAF Schwerger. We all help each other out.

The US, UK, Australia, Canada, and NZ are especially close and there is nothing wrong with that and we are all happy with it. This partnership will never cease to exist. get over it.

The US has done and continues to do a lot of good for us all. You don't like them but your feelings are not founded on reality or common sense. I can understand many Cypriots not liking the US a great deal, because they got a taste of the nasty side of US geostrategic policy which was in support of NATO ally Turkey and I also am not happy with it. But that aside, the US has not faulted or shown us a nasty side and it never will. In fact, they will spill blood for us, have spilled blood for us and will always have our backs.

The US is our mate, like the UK is also.

the US is the country that basically keeps us all together. Without the US, the entire Western Block collapses. Taiwan will get run-over by China. that's 24 million ethnic Chinese subjugated under a regime they want no part of (mush like all the Hong Kongers) because they have an open and liberal society which is very dynamic and wealthy. It's the US that has Taiwan's back as well so apart from the occasional "nasty" side, they do a hell of a lot of good around the world too. Such as defeat ISIS and much more.

We get along with them because we have the same values and systems of democracy as them. The same level of human rights and free speech, although they have more than we do under Their Bill of Rights.


You have a wonderful knack of diverting almost every thread to give us your opinion of the US and how much 'good' you believe they do as the 'Exceptional Nation' ...... but exactly what does all that have to do with ........... anti-Semitism in labour? :roll:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:04 pm

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You've always vociferously opposed any accusation by anybody of antisemitism. Your defence of the Iranians, particularly Amadinejad and his excesses, springs to mind. Surely there's no better example of "kill the Jew" on this planet these days than Iran. The total destruction of the cancer of Israel.

To you, the concept of antisemitism simply doesn't exist.

Like so many, you use "Zionist" as a cloak for your own hatred of Jews. I've seen it so many times with you.

In your world there are eight and a half million Zionists in Israel and best we do away with them all. The world would be a better place. No?

The Jewish bankers stole your money................... after all.

What's your pleasure here? :?

I'm not interested in your views on any of this. Heard it all before. Just make up your mind where this is going. :wink:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:35 pm

[quote="Londonrake"]RH

You've always vociferously opposed any accusation by anybody of antisemitism. Your defence of the Iranians, particularly Amadinejad and his excesses, springs to mind. Surely there's no better example of "kill the Jew" on this planet these days than Iran. The total destruction of the cancer of Israel.

FYI: Iran has the largest Jewish community in the region, outside of Israel. They have MP's, their own schools, hospitals and places of worship ...... you read the wrong propaganda!

To you, the concept of antisemitism simply doesn't exist.

It exists but I have seen very little direct anti-Semitism over the years ...... criticism of Israel and Zionism? ......YES and usually deserved!

Like so many, you use "Zionist" as a cloak for your own hatred of Jews. I've seen it so many times with you.

Then you have a very vivid imagination, it is only your rather biased and warped perception because you don't know the difference!

In your world there are eight and a half million Zionists in Israel and best we do away with them all. The world would be a better place. No?

Zionism .... is a political cult! I realise you have yet to come to terms with that simple fact! :roll:

There are millions of Russians that support their country and in YOUR World you would be pleased to '......do away with them all'? Well at least those that support President Putin! :roll: Or do you subscribe to the philosophy that the only good Russian ........ is a dead Russian.


The Jewish bankers stole your money................... after all.

What's your pleasure here? :?

I'm not interested in your views on any of this. Heard it all before. Just make up your mind where this is going. :wink:

You still don't get the difference between Zionism and Judaism, do you? That's why people like you believe any anti Israel comment is 'anti-Semitic'. Anyway .... good of you to pull the comments back onto the intent of the OP instead of another extended oratory on 'God bless America' and why we should all be eternally grateful to them for everything they have done for the World! :roll:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:58 pm

Oh dear. :(

So be it. Thank you very much for the lunch invites. I enjoyed them but, as I've always said - and have made completely clear (since way back at IXL) I regard this stuff as being totally incompatible with bonhomie company.

With regret, I wish you and K all the best but leave you with that which is clearly the more important to you. :wink:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:46 pm

Londonrake wrote:Oh dear. :(

So be it. Thank you very much for the lunch invites. I enjoyed them but, as I've always said - and have made completely clear (since way back at IXL) I regard this stuff as being totally incompatible with bonhomie company.

With regret, I wish you and K all the best but leave you with that which is clearly the more important to you. :wink:


Well .... and their is me thinking you enjoyed a monthly lunch with fairly normal people? I take that as you do not wish to remain on the invite list ? So be it!
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:48 pm

Londonrake wrote:RH

You've always vociferously opposed any accusation by anybody of antisemitism. Your defence of the Iranians, particularly Amadinejad and his excesses, springs to mind. Surely there's no better example of "kill the Jew" on this planet these days than Iran. The total destruction of the cancer of Israel.

To you, the concept of antisemitism simply doesn't exist.

Like so many, you use "Zionist" as a cloak for your own hatred of Jews. I've seen it so many times with you.

In your world there are eight and a half million Zionists in Israel and best we do away with them all. The world would be a better place. No?

The Jewish bankers stole your money................... after all.

What's your pleasure here? :?

I'm not interested in your views on any of this. Heard it all before. Just make up your mind where this is going. :wink:

you missed the essence of israel. she is there to protect the american interests. the israelis have to start getting smart and make peace. oil will run out sooner or later and the support from the americans will not be there much longer after the oil runs out. and run out it will.

it is always good to negotiate from strenth but still be fair. once you lose the upper hand i don't suppose your enemies will be very friendly.

have you not read what rbs did to their customers? whether they are jewish or not makes no difference. all banks look after their own interests and hide behind banking rules to steal people's money. rbs is not the only bank that does it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/rbs-leak-leaked-files-bank-destroyed-customers-businesses-for-profit-project-dash-for-cash-a7353906.html
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:10 pm

Two articles worth reading , the first is by a Jew and was first published in an Israeli paper, the second is by Jonathan Cook, who lives in Palestine .........

The contract on Corbyn - By Gideon Levy - This article was originally published by "Haaretz"

Corbyn is not an anti-Semite. His real sin is to fight against injustice in the world, including the version Israel perpetrates

November 28/29, 2019 "Information Clearing House" - The Jewish establishment in Britain and the Israeli propaganda machine have taken out a contract on the leader of the British Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn. The contract was taken out a long time ago, and it was clear that the closer Corbyn came to being elected prime minister, the harsher the conflict would get.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52637.htm



Chief Rabbi Mirvis is helping stoke anti-Semitism
- By Jonathan Cook

November 28/29, 2019 "Information Clearing House" - Chief rabbi Ephraim Mirvis has not only misrepresented the known facts about Labour and its supposed antisemitism crisis. He has interfered in an overtly, politically partisan manner in the December 12 election campaign by suggesting that Jeremy Corbyn – against all evidence – is an antisemite.

By speaking out as the voice of British Jews – a false claim he has allowed the UK media to promote – his unprecedented meddling in the election of Britain’s next leader has actually made the wider Jewish community in the UK much less safe. Mirvis is contributing to the very antisemitism he says he wants to eradicate.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52634.htm

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:14 pm

Is this antisemitism attack on Corbyn really 'cutting through' with the electorate ? Ask Matt Hancock (from recent local hustings in his constituency)



The election is the Tories too lose and boy are some of them giving it their best shot :)
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:35 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Well .... and their is me thinking you enjoyed a monthly lunch with fairly normal people? I take that as you do not wish to remain on the invite list ? So be it!


This sort of thing is not compatible. As I have always said. Yes, please remove.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:53 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Well .... and their is me thinking you enjoyed a monthly lunch with fairly normal people? I take that as you do not wish to remain on the invite list ? So be it!


This sort of thing is not compatible. As I have always said. Yes, please remove.


You first mention unprompted 'lunch invites' and reference a person of the inital K and then when RH responds to this, you declare such 'not compatible' and ask for removal ? Maybe a radical suggestion but how about first you remove your post that started the exchange before making demands of RH ?
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