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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:56 pm

...indeed, who will pull the trigger first. Greece is being forced to consider this possibility is real, so too the EU and all of Turkey's neighbours.

Erdogan knows very well that he can win in a war of public relations, just so long as he becomes the victim of some aggression. It is a very fine line he has drawn, and will be drawing when drillships begin their work in waters where Greece and Libya meet. The dogfights in the Aegean will be compounded with Naval demonstrations, relatively speaking at great cost to Greece.

She will have a lot of diplomatic support from other countries, she will also be under a lot of stress to get a deal done, (any deal). And yet,it is possible that these players will understand that the very foundations of their existence is at stake, not just a slice of Greece and Cyprus.

Unity, without a demonstration of action, as a unified body, what are Universal Principals worth? If the "Western World" leads, this solidarity is in effect demanded. With all the misery that there is in this region, such as it is, it is not sustainable. If there is a cost it is either War, or change; this is the position that Erdogan has taken: total supremacy or an equal.

I find it interesting that he was placed himself in Libya as the mirror opposite to Russia in Syria, being the welcome guest of the "legitimate" government.

...it will not be easy to get Erdogan to the table.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:07 pm

Some Turkish analysts and commentators are now starting to sound the alarms.

Turkey is on the path to destruction..

Foreign reserves are down massively, inflation has spiked again, the foreign trade deficit has widened for the last quarter of 2019 and the Lira is heading towards all time lows yet again.

Turkey is on the cliff face of a major financial meltdown amidst domestic and foreign turmoil resulting from her own doing..

Now with this motion to send troops to Libya, it is being said that the Turkish government is to pay Jihadis from Syria $2,000 per month to fight. Further isolating herself internationally and spreading herself thin.

For a country that had aspirations to join the EU, it is alarming how rogue Turkey has turned out to be. She is probably going to end up on the EU's list of countries that support and funds terrorism instead. And to think that some people thought it was a good idea to "just let them in" while she barely closed one minor chapter in the accession process. :shock:

With that being said, Turkeys destruction under Endorgan looks like its almost guaranteed.

In my opinion, there is no way Endorgan will find a happy ending for himself or for Turkey.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby B25 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:37 pm

Maximus wrote: And to think that some people thought it was a good idea to "just let them in" while she barely closed one minor chapter in the accession process. :shock:


'Some people' being the UK. So tell me why doe the EU not even cancel Turkeys application instead of just freezing it??

For as long as the UK and the US keep giving Turkey the Blow Job, she'll continue on this path.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:07 pm

B25 wrote:So tell me why doe the EU not even cancel Turkeys application instead of just freezing it??


They dont want to be seen as the party preventing Turkey from joining. Which would invariably give End-organ cheap political capital and excuses to blame them for it.

Even though Turkey is 100% responsible for her EU accession process, her application is as good as cancelled as long as it remains frozen.

Which ever way you look at it, frozen or cancelled, the outcome is the same. However the latter is a stronger and better political position for the EU.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:17 pm

75% of Germans believe that End-organ has a negative influence on world security. Even more than North Korea's Kim.

And 58% of Germans want Turkey ejected from NATO.

https://ahvalnews.com/recep-tayyip-erdo ... inion-poll
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Cap » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:01 pm

End-organ


:lol: :lol:

If he's lucky, he'll end peacefully.
Otherwise it'll end from a drone hellfire missile like Mr Soleimani.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:35 pm

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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:06 pm

Cap wrote:
End-organ


:lol: :lol:

If he's lucky, he'll end peacefully.
Otherwise it'll end from a drone hellfire missile like Mr Soleimani.


that is why we haven't heard any blustering and words of condemnation yet.

He's probably sitting on his gold plated toilet calculating if his current trajectory would make him next.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:23 am

...he already has calculated that trajectory, hence the S-400s.

...he is "a step ahead", he has already a plan to disrupt the balance of power as it is, he is a part of the "brotherhood" whose intentions are to dominate Muslims' lives with their particular dogma(s). He has the ambition to move "Turkishness'' beyond the restraints of the Treaty of Lausanne, and it is an ambition that is relevant to many in the Middle East who seek a change beyond it as a settlement. Such, the murder of an Iranian and an Iraqi hero in Baghdad, is an invitation for him to do more to destabilize the region in particular, and in general the world, with military hostilities by him.

What are in affect/effect enemies are now united; the enemy of my enemy becomes my friend.

...sadly, a war with America suits "Americans" with their Agenda just fine, toward controlling Americans themselves. Who better to have a war with, rather than a "Turk", or Putin, the Iranian regime, which is already on the ropes; sounds easy.

Erdogan, with his ambitions makes a likely ally, if it is a war, as such, against America/"America"; while he has remained silent, he is surely assessing many options.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:52 am

Yes, he is assessing his options

A) become a fugitive and live the rest of his days in Pakistan.
B) risk being assassinated
C) jail.
D) step down,

but I doubt he would think of D) But if he did, it would probably revert to option C).
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