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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 20, 2023 4:36 am



...strong opinions.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 20, 2023 8:27 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Ukraine and US have said that their Patriots missile system was lightly damaged by Russian Hypersonic missile, probably nothing that a little duct tape couldn’t fix to make it operational again! :wink: :lol:



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The Patriot is useless vs the Kinzhal. They only have two systems in Kiev (cost of each 1 billion!!) one of those fired all it's 32 missiles (cost of each missile, 3 million) and did not hit even one Kinzhal.
Until it revealed it's position and got hit as well. And then it got minor damage??? :wink: :lol: :lol:

In any case someone in Ukraine is currently selling Patriot parts for collectors.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/46775


It seems that the only reason the Patriot fired all of it’s 30+ missiles in all directions at a incoming Kinzhal missile, was because Patriots radar must have had an auto lock on the Kinzhal, and as the Kinzhal kept changing directions as it can, then more missiles were fired at it until the Patriot fired all it’s missiles and all missed, until the Patriot system got hit itself. All of Patriot missiles are “proximity missiles, which explode at certain altitude in the projected path of the incoming missile to damage/divert it rather than making a direct hit like a heat seeking missile would. However, if the incoming missile is constantly changing directions, then the Patriot is firing all of it’s missiles to a target that is no longer there soon after detecting it, as in the case, “now you see it, now you don’t”! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 20, 2023 11:32 am

Kikapu wrote: “now you see it, now you don’t”! :wink:



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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 20, 2023 12:01 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IoY0-Lv_c4

...other news today.


1) I really wonder why this guy has not been drafted yet, considering the Ukr police is chasing draft age males, even outside supermarkets.
2) Before wasting your time listening to this propagandist just check on Google Earth what he is talking about. Ivanivske was always under Ukr control, Klish..ivka was taken by the Russians a couple of months ago. The distance between the two, centrer to center, is 5.5 Km. So what was that 2.5km land the Ukrainians "liberated"? Empty lands? :wink:
3) Then he talks about Himars hitting spread Russian tanks parked somewhere. For a start Himars are currently totally useless as the Russians found the trick to jam them electronically. Secondly they require fixed known coordinates, that may take a long time to posess. That's why they are used against buildings, bridges etc. Thirdly they are used almost exclusively at nights because it's a fire and immediately run away system. Do you think any tank could possibly get parked anywhere, and remain still for more than an hour??
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat May 20, 2023 12:47 pm

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...strong opinions.

This Yank is no historian clearly. Expansion cannot be described as no expansion depending on the process. Expansion is obvious clear and visible.

It seems to me expansion is only called that when Russia does it but not when the Yanks do it. Just ask yourself why the Yanks objected to Russia stationing missiles in Cuba back in 1963. Was the wrong process used?

Also it is funny that China is seen as expansionists even when they are not using weapons at all.

This cunt is full of shit RW.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat May 20, 2023 12:50 pm

It seems to me the Yanks allowing F16 to be given to Ukraine is simply going to cause more death and destruction. So clearly the Americans thirst for blood has not yet been satisfied yet.

It seems clear that the Russians are not expanding any more and as it is very unlikely the Ukrainians will be able win back the territory they lost, it is time to sit down and talk to the Russian Ukrainians to come to an arrangement where they could have a BBF and remain one country rather than expand the fighting and cause more death and destruction.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 20, 2023 3:57 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:

...strong opinions.

This is the equivalent of the Case for the Prosecution in a Court of Law but in a Court of Law you get to hear the DEFENSE as well. When dealing with the US/UK alliance and their partners and allies Court .......... they tend to prevent access to the defense response and any information you do find is identified as Russian Propaganda or a Conspiracy Theory.

If you put back into his story all the FACTS he leaves out ........ you get a somewhat different picture of events. If you want I could point you in the right direction ....... purely using facts you can verify for yourself.

But to go to the trouble and no one is interested is a waste of my time. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 20, 2023 4:15 pm

Lordo wrote:It seems to me the Yanks allowing F16 to be given to Ukraine is simply going to cause more death and destruction. So clearly the Americans thirst for blood has not yet been satisfied yet.

It seems clear that the Russians are not expanding any more and as it is very unlikely the Ukrainians will be able win back the territory they lost, it is time to sit down and talk to the Russian Ukrainians to come to an arrangement where they could have a BBF and remain one country rather than expand the fighting and cause more death and destruction.


Presumably the excuse behind the Yanks' refusal to supply F-16s is because the Ukrs are going to use them to strike inside Russia. Let aside the 9 month basic training + another 9 month for level A training after which the war should be over anyway.
I believe the main reason though, is that they will all be shot down very quickly, and that will be too much of an embarrassment for the American "wonder weapons". S300,400,500 are not joking.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 20, 2023 4:18 pm

Lordo wrote:It seems to me the Yanks allowing F16 to be given to Ukraine is simply going to cause more death and destruction. So clearly the Americans thirst for blood has not yet been satisfied yet.

You miss the point! All the US's NATO friends get rid of the old crap in the hangars ...... and the US provides them with nice new (or maybe re-furbished s/h F-35's) n exchange ........ at a cost of course! I wonder if the US would be so keen to agree if all their puppets decide to buy Russian replacements? :lol:

It seems clear that the Russians are not expanding any more and as it is very unlikely the Ukrainians will be able win back the territory they lost, it is time to sit down and talk to the Russian Ukrainians to come to an arrangement where they could have a BBF and remain one country rather than expand the fighting and cause more death and destruction.

What you have now is the same sort of stale mate that existed along the Minsk LoC until the US helped Kyiv in 2021 to escalate the internal conflict in early Feb 2022. The US and its partner are trying to build up a big enough army to attack SE Ukraine ...... like they did in Donbas on the 10-12th Feb 2022. The Russians MO is the same one they taught the DPR resistance when they had stopped Kyiv's advance around early 2015. That failed then ...... and so will any attempt when/if Kyiv tries it again.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 20, 2023 6:36 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Lordo wrote:It seems to me the Yanks allowing F16 to be given to Ukraine is simply going to cause more death and destruction. So clearly the Americans thirst for blood has not yet been satisfied yet.


You miss the point! All the US's NATO friends get rid of the old crap in the hangars ...... and the US provides them with nice new (or maybe re-furbished s/h F-35's) n exchange ........ at a cost of course! I wonder if the US would be so keen to agree if all their puppets decide to buy Russian replacements? :lol:


The reason why Biden keeps on giving Ukraine more and more deadly weapons is in the hopes that Ukraine can turn the tide, but nothing has worked, so if Biden does not agree to give the F-16s to Zelensky, he will be blamed for not helping Ukraine to win the war against Russia. Biden has gotten his balls stuck between a rock and a hard place, and Zelensky knows it and will point the blame game finger at Biden just to save his ass from the Ukrainian people down the road when the whole of Eastern Ukraine along the Black Sea becomes part of greater Russia and the rest becomes a wasteland.

Biden has an election coming up in 2024 which he would like to win, that will be an uphill battle for him as it is. Last thing he wants is to be blamed for wasting billions of US tax payers money and have nothing to show for in Ukraine. Personally, Biden deserves to have his balls busted in the next election for his fuck ups in Ukraine. As for the fuckups by the rest of the collective West, they deserve whatever economic disasters comes their way and the big Egg Foo Young in NATO face, militarily.
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