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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu May 26, 2022 7:10 pm

A rare, weird and rather sad video of Russians entering a Ukrainian trench, and a deadly cat and mouse type of game ensues whereby they’re tossing hand grenades at each other etc…

https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploa ... -13-46.mp4

One guy managed to toss back two hand grenades thrown at him in the nick of time, but he didn’t manage the third. :?

NB: You might want to kill the audio because some idiot added music to it!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu May 26, 2022 7:38 pm

Get Real! wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...isn't there a book (or a movie) somewhere by Kazantsakis called "Z"?

Or maybe Zorro! :)


World War Z.

Brad Pitt. Seems - appropriate.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 27, 2022 12:45 am

...someone to take very seriously,



...happy that he takes a side against Kissinger and his ilk.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 27, 2022 2:54 am



...to painful to watch.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Fri May 27, 2022 3:40 pm

It was only matter of time that Ukraine would bite the hand that feeds it!


25 May, 2022 22:31
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‘Go f**k yourselves’, Zelensky aide tells Western officials
The presidential adviser called Westerners urging concessions in the name of peace ‘dumb f**ks’


High-profile Ukrainian presidential adviser Alexey Arestovich has resorted to obscene language to criticize those in the West urging Kiev to cede part of the country’s territory to Russia for the sake of peace.

“Go f**k yourselves with such proposals, you dumb f**ks, to trade Ukrainian territory a little bit! Are you f**king crazy? Our children are dying, soldiers are stopping shells with their own bodies, and they are telling us how to sacrifice our territories. This will never happen,” he insisted in an interview on Wednesday.



Arestovich criticized the logic of “bleating” voices encouraging Ukraine “to curb its appetite” and to give Russia the territories it supposedly wants, as this would allow Kiev to “establish a comprehensive peace and to return to business as usual.”

Another adviser of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Mikhail Podoliak, took to Telegram on Wednesday to address the “pro-Russian lobbyists in Europe.”

“We do not sell our citizens, territories or sovereignty. This is a clear red line. Ukrainian society has paid a terrible price and will not allow anyone to even take a step in this direction – no government and no country,” Podoliak said. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.rt.com/russia/556103-aresto ... -response/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 27, 2022 4:57 pm

This happens when you allow assholes to run the country who believe in their propaganda. He managed to get the Russian speakers to vote for him by saying he will cancel the Nato application to join and as soon as he won he moved in the other direction.

The westerners should be familiar with such duplicity.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 27, 2022 6:53 pm

...frankly it is reassuring that a Ukrainian Minister feels so strongly about his country, and its People. It would be easy for a "Ukrainian" to give the "Russians" what they want at this point don't you think?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 27, 2022 7:03 pm

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles ... -%20112017

...victory from fantasy. Isn't it what "its" all about?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri May 27, 2022 7:13 pm

Kikapu wrote:It was only matter of time that Ukraine would bite the hand that feeds it!


25 May, 2022 22:31
HomeRussia & FSU

‘Go f**k yourselves’, Zelensky aide tells Western officials
The presidential adviser called Westerners urging concessions in the name of peace ‘dumb f**ks’


High-profile Ukrainian presidential adviser Alexey Arestovich has resorted to obscene language to criticize those in the West urging Kiev to cede part of the country’s territory to Russia for the sake of peace.

“Go f**k yourselves with such proposals, you dumb f**ks, to trade Ukrainian territory a little bit! Are you f**king crazy? Our children are dying, soldiers are stopping shells with their own bodies, and they are telling us how to sacrifice our territories. This will never happen,” he insisted in an interview on Wednesday.



Arestovich criticized the logic of “bleating” voices encouraging Ukraine “to curb its appetite” and to give Russia the territories it supposedly wants, as this would allow Kiev to “establish a comprehensive peace and to return to business as usual.”

Another adviser of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Mikhail Podoliak, took to Telegram on Wednesday to address the “pro-Russian lobbyists in Europe.”

“We do not sell our citizens, territories or sovereignty. This is a clear red line. Ukrainian society has paid a terrible price and will not allow anyone to even take a step in this direction – no government and no country,” Podoliak said. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.rt.com/russia/556103-aresto ... -response/


I thought the Russian "special military operation" was to de-militarize and de-nazify Ukraine.

When did their objectives change and they are being advised to give them the [territories] that they want?

They do need to come to terms with some agreement for a ceasefire.

But ceding territory is not the answer.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 27, 2022 7:46 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...frankly it is reassuring that a Ukrainian Minister feels so strongly about his country, and its People. It would be easy for a "Ukrainian" to give the "Russians" what they want at this point don't you think?

If the Ukranian felt strongly about his country, he would not drag her to the top of the cliff and then push her over. If they remained non-aligned, there would have been no problem with Russia.

Of all people we Cypriots should understand this as our leader Makarios played the same game and look where it brought us.
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