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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 27, 2022 8:33 pm

The sad state of Ukrainian conscripts sent to defend the front-lines…

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 27, 2022 8:35 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:
"I have cooled down regarding this question a long time ago after we understood that ... NATO is not prepared to accept Ukraine," Zelensky said in an interview aired Monday night on ABC News."


Oh, come on How does that support you statement:
Lordo wrote: He managed to get the Russian speakers to vote for him by saying he will cancel the Nato application to join and as soon as he won he moved in the other direction.


It doesn't do anything of the kind.

Neither Germany nor France were going to agree to Ukranian membership of NATO. Gas/business interests. It was just a BS Putin fabrication for invasion.

So - what happened to your "I don't support aggressors"? :?

The fact that he said he did not support joining Nato is beyond doubt, the fact that the majority he got was not possible without the Russian speakers votes is also in no doubt. They were not exactly going to vote for politicians who wanted to join Nato. All you need is a speech he gave to say so. Well here he is in this report telling them he said it a long time ago. What else do you need exactly?
Or are you looking for a speech specifically to the Russian speakers?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Lordo wrote:The fact that he said he did not support joining Nato is beyond doubt, the fact that the majority he got was not possible without the Russian speakers votes is also in no doubt. They were not exactly going to vote for politicians who wanted to join Nato. All you need is a speech he gave to say so. Well here he is in this report telling them he said it a long time ago. What else do you need exactly?

Or to cut a long story short, Zelensky played stupid games and won stupid prizes! :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri May 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:It's day 93 of what was supposed to be a lighting blitzkrieg. Taking Kiev, removing the government and installing a compliant administration in a matter of days.

These were all assumptions of the West.

Constantly assuming and getting everything wrong seems a recurring theme with the West! :)

It turned out that by surrounding Kiev, Russia kept some 200K of the best Ukrainian forces pinned down in the capital while they operated with less resistance elsewhere.



:lol: Sorry. That's total BS.

Day 93.

And the Russian army is "the best in the world"? Russia a "superpower"? I don't think so. :wink:

But - I enjoy your daily output of good news for Russia. How the entrepreneurs are flooding in and people eating coolburgers, driving Soviet era Moskvich's.

I've always said Russia will "win" in the end. Although, I'm not sure what sort of victory that will be. Pyrrhic at least. Let's bear in mind how the inhabitants of Maripurol - having had their city obliterated - have been rushing out to give the people who did it flowers and begging them not to leave. That, when they aren't going to the local cinemas.

You really couldn't make this stuff up. But some people do! And they believe it. Baaaaaaaa! :roll:

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 27, 2022 8:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:The sad state of Ukrainian conscripts sent to defend the front-lines…

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...why training is so important.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 27, 2022 8:44 pm

Londonrake wrote: :lol: Sorry. That's total BS.

Day 93.

And the Russian army is "the best in the world"? Russia a "superpower"? I don't think so. :wink:

But why are you in such a hurry?

By comparison, didn’t I already mention that it took the British forces 1.5 months to liberate a rock off the coast of Argentina that is about the size of 5 football fields, and in the process lost half their navy? :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 27, 2022 8:45 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:The fact that he said he did not support joining Nato is beyond doubt, the fact that the majority he got was not possible without the Russian speakers votes is also in no doubt. They were not exactly going to vote for politicians who wanted to join Nato. All you need is a speech he gave to say so. Well here he is in this report telling them he said it a long time ago. What else do you need exactly?

Or to cut a long story short, Zelensky played stupid games and won stupid prizes! :lol:

Maybe he thought he was playing the game called "Pointless"
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 27, 2022 8:46 pm

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Get Real! wrote:The sad state of Ukrainian conscripts sent to defend the front-lines…

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...why training is so important.


...and if you look, you may find a conscript in a similar situation which show themselves to be brave and reasoned despite such hardship.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 27, 2022 8:50 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:It's day 93 of what was supposed to be a lighting blitzkrieg. Taking Kiev, removing the government and installing a compliant administration in a matter of days.

These were all assumptions of the West.

Constantly assuming and getting everything wrong seems a recurring theme with the West! :)

It turned out that by surrounding Kiev, Russia kept some 200K of the best Ukrainian forces pinned down in the capital while they operated with less resistance elsewhere.



:lol: Sorry. That's total BS.

Day 93.

And the Russian army is "the best in the world"? Russia a "superpower"? I don't think so. :wink:

But - I enjoy your daily output of good news for Russia. How the entrepreneurs are flooding in and people eating coolburgers, driving Soviet era Moskvich's.

I've always said Russia will "win" in the end. Although, I'm not sure what sort of victory that will be. Pyrrhic at least. Let's bear in mind how the inhabitants of Maripurol - having had their city obliterated - have been rushing out to give the people who did it flowers and begging them not to leave. That, when they aren't going to the local cinemas.

You really couldn't make this stuff up. But some people do! And they believe it. Baaaaaaaa! :roll:

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For a country to be superpower what must it have?

Give two examples.

I will give you the first one.

It must have enough weapons to destroy the whole world at least once over.

What is the second?

And does the said country need both to be a superpower?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 27, 2022 8:52 pm

Putting nukes aside, I reckon the Russian forces could capture the UK in like 2-3 weeks!

Imagine the Spetsnaz dragging Boris by the scruff to a tribunal… with his laughable 27% approval rate, even the British public would be applauding! :lol:
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