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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sat May 28, 2022 1:18 am

Sounds like bordo needs to pay for some African migrants to help him get over BoZo's farewell booze up..
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sat May 28, 2022 8:34 am

These West haters ought to pack their bags and fuck off to the Middle East. There they can join similar minded shit brain people and live happily amongst them. I hear that ISIS is r3cruiting throat slitters and HAMAS is training suicide bombers. Off you go you stupid bastards, the West doesn't need imbeciles.
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DON'T LIKE IT? FUCK OFF THEN
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat May 28, 2022 11:56 am

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote: :lol: Sorry. That's total BS.

Day 93.

And the Russian army is "the best in the world"? Russia a "superpower"? I don't think so. :wink:

But why are you in such a hurry?

By comparison, didn’t I already mention that it took the British forces 1.5 months to liberate a rock off the coast of Argentina that is about the size of 5 football fields, and in the process lost half their navy? :lol:


Ahhh - a Lordo-ism. :lol:

The Falklands were 8000 miles away from the UK. That, across the full length of the Atlantic by ship. They are about 5000 square miles in size. Not "5 football fields". :roll:

Ukraine is literally just next door to that great superpower Russia. You could roll a tank across it in a few days (although, that didn't work out for them of course).


1.5 months is 6 weeks. 8000 miles away. The Russian "Special military operation" is now in it's 4th month and ongoing, with considerably reduced objectives and (unacknowledged of course) eye watering losses of manpower and materials.

The RN lost 5 ships in the war. Not "half the navy".

Argentina was subsequently rid of a fascist, military dictatorship which had murdered 30,000 of it's own people. The "disappeared". Well, people much like you actually. :wink:

You really need to do a bit of research on these things GR.

Heaven forbid! :lol:

Fuckin hell man you need some help.

You take the distance between the countries and you conclude Britain did better on those grounds. And there I was thinking you understand war.

Lets look at the differences.

The size of the country
How many soldiers actually landed from Argentina?
What kind of arms did they have to defend themselves with?
Did Argentina actually believe that UK would put up a fight.
Who backed UK with all the satellite information.
What kind of weapons did America supply UK.

Fucking hell man what the hell is going on here?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 28, 2022 1:28 pm

Lordo wrote:What kind of weapons did America supply UK.


At least 100 sidewinders UK begged the US for, which eventually got them.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat May 28, 2022 1:49 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:What kind of weapons did America supply UK.


At least 100 sidewinders UK begged the US for, which eventually got them.

Can you believe somebody with any brains compared the two wars and came to a conclusion?

Especially after this fact.

By late April Argentina had stationed approximately 10,000 troops on the Falklands, although the vast majority of these were poorly trained conscripts, and they were not supplied with proper food, clothing, and shelter for the approaching winter.


Compare that with billions worth weapons west has handed over to the Ukrainians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat May 28, 2022 4:36 pm

Lordo wrote:Fuckin hell man you need some help.

You take the distance between the countries and you conclude Britain did better on those grounds. And there I was thinking you understand war.

Lets look at the differences.

The size of the country
How many soldiers actually landed from Argentina?
What kind of arms did they have to defend themselves with?
Did Argentina actually believe that UK would put up a fight.
Who backed UK with all the satellite information.
What kind of weapons did America supply UK.

Fucking hell man what the hell is going on here?


Mmm. Why do I "need some help"?

As always L. You will back up the Devil himself if it's a choice between him and your perverse, bitter hatred of the West. I think that really it's your good self that needs "help". You have the anti-west thing really, really bad. I truly wonder why. :? What happened to make you that way? Not only that, you don't seem to have a positive thing to say about anything. Your posts relentlessly, wrist-slashingly negative.

At the time I didn't really agree but now begin to understand Max's earlier comment about your being "toxic".

Here you take the side of a fascist military dictatorship (well - again :roll: ). One which had been in power in Argentina for 7 years at the time of the Falklands war. During which they had exterminated something like 30,000 of their own people. Mostly left wing activist types, just like you. Although, it seems to me that your so-called socialist conscience is really just a veneer, totally subordinate to your fanatical anti-west psychosis. You should seek help. Perhaps together yourself and GR could get a discount?

Anyway, after widespread anti-government protests in Buenos Aries the junta did what all dictatorships do in such circumstances, they looked for a mechanism to invoke nationalism. The thing all dictators fear most being their own people.

So, to widespread public acclaim they invaded the Falklands on April 2nd 1982. Something which - like Ukraine - you appear to support. You're "I am against all aggressors" shown for what it is - a load of total bollocks.

The rest is history of course but let's get back to what the great man said:

Get Real! wrote:By comparison, didn’t I already mention that it took the British forces 1.5 months to liberate a rock off the coast of Argentina that is about the size of 5 football fields, and in the process lost half their navy? :lol:


Russia's invasion of Ukraine would "by comparison" to use a fair analogy, geographically be somewhat like England invading Wales or Scotland. Not one involving undertaking a naval expedition of 8000 miles. Clearly another - wait for it - load of bollocks.

The Falklands aren't a rock about the size of 5 football fields. The RN didn't lose half it's ships. Yet another - wait for it ...........................................

As far as the rest of your diatribe is concerned:


The size of the country. Irrelevant - given GR's ridiculous attempt to use it as an analogy. What's your point? :?

How many soldiers actually landed from Argentina? They had quite a while before the UK task force arrived. About 10,000 I believe. Not forgetting all the accompanying air/army infrastructure.

What kind of arms did they have to defend themselves with? You tell me. Not inconsiderable though, for sure.

Did Argentina actually believe that UK would put up a fight. Probably not. What a shock it must have been! Not sure - again - what your point is though.

Who backed UK with all the satellite information. The UK had lots of it's own Intel. Although, Reagan gave them everything they asked for.

What kind of weapons did America supply UK. Shrike mainly. The UK had everything else it needed.


Lordo wrote: And there I was thinking you understand war.


Much more than you I suspect. I was there and flew quite a few very long range missions from Ascension Island. What's your understanding of war? Apart from the usual keyboard warrior/Google stuff that is. Which - I acknowledge - makes you an "expert". :roll:

Lordo. Do you comprehend the hypocrisy of your position? Socialist angst (your La la Blog, et al), whilst supposedly wearing your heart on sleeve for the global poor and disadvantaged. Displaying your champagne socialist credentials. Concurrently though hooting and roaring for just about any tyrant -regardless of their CV - on the simple criteria they oppose the West. It's, wait for it, a load of ..............................................

You're clearly a troubled man. I suspect it comes down to the simple homily on your part of despising the society you live in. Although, it presents you with the chance to satisfy your obvious hunger for pontificating about it ad nauseum. Then again - perhaps you just like arguing.

The answers simple. Pack up and move to greener pastures. Surely?

My apologies to Max.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sat May 28, 2022 4:54 pm

Those who live in the West and hate it so much are generally losers, Lordo for instance who I believe he has lived in the UK for some 30 years is a loser. He obviously lives in a council hose, curtecy of the West, can't afford to retire in spite of being ... 80 years old :lol: So the fact that he barely survives its apparently the fault of the West. As for the other one, well he has a ....big house no doubt heavily mortgaged and drives a .... skateboard :x Well at least I have a ...shed :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat May 28, 2022 6:26 pm

Londonrake wrote:The size of the country. Irrelevant - given GR's ridiculous attempt to use it as an analogy. What's your point? :?

OK, so militarily there’s no difference between having to capture a rock of 100 inhabitants, versus capturing a country the size of Turkey with 46 million inhabitants!

GOT IT! 8)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat May 28, 2022 6:44 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:The size of the country. Irrelevant - given GR's ridiculous attempt to use it as an analogy. What's your point? :?


OK, so militarily there’s no difference between having to capture a rock of 100 inhabitants, versus capturing a country the size of Turkey with 46 million inhabitants!

GOT IT! 8)


And there's no difference between a "superpower" pouring 200,000 of its troops, with armour and air support, across a neighbouring country's land border, with having to travel 8000 miles by sea to undertake a military operation?

You brought it up but it's really not a valid comparison. And certainly absolutely nothing at all to do with current events in Ukraine. Which are in day 92. No?


So, come on, what's the good news for Russia today?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat May 28, 2022 7:42 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:The size of the country. Irrelevant - given GR's ridiculous attempt to use it as an analogy. What's your point? :?


OK, so militarily there’s no difference between having to capture a rock of 100 inhabitants, versus capturing a country the size of Turkey with 46 million inhabitants!

GOT IT! 8)


And there's no difference between a "superpower" pouring 200,000 of its troops, with armour and air support, across a neighbouring country's land border, with having to travel 8000 miles by sea to undertake a military operation?

You brought it up but it's really not a valid comparison. And certainly absolutely nothing at all to do with current events in Ukraine. Which are in day 92. No?


So, come on, what's the good news for Russia today?


Nooooooooo it is not as simple as that.
You have to look at the whole picture.
You are missing 99% of the picture.
You really do need some help.
I posted what you need to consider before coming to conclusion ffs.
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