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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:58 pm

We may have avoided WWIII for now but according to yesterdays Russian UN ambassador interview, it's clear to me it will be unavoidable if Finland decides to join Nato.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:31 pm

miltiades wrote:There is NO excuse for Russia's invasion of a sovereign nation anymore for Turkeys6 invasion of Cyprus. The Russian army is currently bombing Kiev, they are playing with fire as I believe that the West will not just remain silent.
I have always liked Russia and considered Putin as a clever leader. Not anymore. Russia should be ashamed of their actions, innocent people women and children are suffering, how dare they do this to an independent country. I know that the Russian people do not support this invasion.


There is no comparison between Russian invasion and the Turkish Invasion.
1)The Russians did not and will not do ethnic cleansing
2)They will not takes anyones homes and lands.
3)They will not make half the Ukrainains refugees sleeping under the trees
4)When this is over everybody will be allowed to return to their homes and jobs as usual.
5)They will not install a Russian government but a Russian friendly Ukrainian Government.
6)They will not take half Ukraine and call it Russian Republic of Eastern Ukraine.

What Turkey did here was 100 times worse, and everybody is playing dumb up until today. We asked for sanctions to a few Turkish Oligarchs to the EU, and every time we go ask what happened they postpone it for eternity. Last time they told us THEY LOST THE FOLDER!!

In view of this I cannot feel anything but disgust for the EU and the whole West, who within days invented a million of sanctions against Russia, while for us they LOST THE FOLDER. Assihtir malakes.

Nobody is in favor of war. Russia itself as well as the vast majority of ex Soviet Republics are not ready to join the "civilized" world, they are all dictatorships who just rip the abandoned wealth via oligarchs, Ukraine included. The West is also very corrupted, but at least we still have most of our civil liberties.
So the question here is not whether Russia is excused or not. Nobody is excused. And we in Cyprus should be very careful who we trust.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:14 pm

The illegal Turkish occupation of Cyprus wont last for much longer and I completely agree with you.

What's worse, some Europeans went and bought these stolen homes and live in them and spend their days arguing on the Cy-mail.

Their excuse, its different.

The world wont be the same because of this.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:03 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:There is NO excuse for Russia's invasion of a sovereign nation anymore for Turkeys6 invasion of Cyprus. The Russian army is currently bombing Kiev, they are playing with fire as I believe that the West will not just remain silent.
I have always liked Russia and considered Putin as a clever leader. Not anymore. Russia should be ashamed of their actions, innocent people women and children are suffering, how dare they do this to an independent country. I know that the Russian people do not support this invasion.


There is no comparison between Russian invasion and the Turkish Invasion.
1)The Russians did not and will not do ethnic cleansing
2)They will not takes anyones homes and lands.
3)They will not make half the Ukrainains refugees sleeping under the trees
4)When this is over everybody will be allowed to return to their homes and jobs as usual.
5)They will not install a Russian government but a Russian friendly Ukrainian Government.
6)They will not take half Ukraine and call it Russian Republic of Eastern Ukraine.

What Turkey did here was 100 times worse, and everybody is playing dumb up until today. We asked for sanctions to a few Turkish Oligarchs to the EU, and every time we go ask what happened they postpone it for eternity. Last time they told us THEY LOST THE FOLDER!!

In view of this I cannot feel anything but disgust for the EU and the whole West, who within days invented a million of sanctions against Russia, while for us they LOST THE FOLDER. Assihtir malakes.

Nobody is in favor of war. Russia itself as well as the vast majority of ex Soviet Republics are not ready to join the "civilized" world, they are all dictatorships who just rip the abandoned wealth via oligarchs, Ukraine included. The West is also very corrupted, but at least we still have most of our civil liberties.
So the question here is not whether Russia is excused or not. Nobody is excused. And we in Cyprus should be very careful who we trust.

How interesting. So far 7 million Ukrainians have abandoned their homes. By the time it will end, it will be 50%.

Your venom against the Turks has not subsided one iota. While Turks took 160,000 properties they left you 60,000 in the south. The Russians are not giving a single property back to the Ukranians.
I was under the impression they already recognised two of the states already.

Wake up wake up you are having a dream. It looks more like they are taking the best bits and leaving the rest to the locals. I seem to remember that the places they have taken already are where all the oil fields are.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:06 pm

Maximus wrote:The illegal Turkish occupation of Cyprus wont last for much longer and I completely agree with you.

What's worse, some Europeans went and bought these stolen homes and live in them and spend their days arguing on the Cy-mail.

Their excuse, its different.

The world wont be the same because of this.


Of course they are very sorry as they want to return to UK but are unable to sell anywhere near the price they bought.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:20 pm

One similarity between the Ukraine war and Cyprus is the fact that of those who have lost their homes in the last week, they had already lost their homes back in 2014 and now they have lost the homes they have set up since a second time.

The exact same thing happened to the TCs back in 1963/4 and they too lost their homes again in 1974 a second time.

What is the saddest aspect of Cyprus Problem is the fact that some of those people who lost their properties twice, were prepared to lose the homes they have set up since 1974 for the third time for peace but thankfully for them the GCs refused to force them out for the third time.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:02 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:There is NO excuse for Russia's invasion of a sovereign nation anymore for Turkeys6 invasion of Cyprus. The Russian army is currently bombing Kiev, they are playing with fire as I believe that the West will not just remain silent.
I have always liked Russia and considered Putin as a clever leader. Not anymore. Russia should be ashamed of their actions, innocent people women and children are suffering, how dare they do this to an independent country. I know that the Russian people do not support this invasion.


There is no comparison between Russian invasion and the Turkish Invasion.
1)The Russians did not and will not do ethnic cleansing
2)They will not takes anyones homes and lands.
3)They will not make half the Ukrainains refugees sleeping under the trees
4)When this is over everybody will be allowed to return to their homes and jobs as usual.
5)They will not install a Russian government but a Russian friendly Ukrainian Government.
6)They will not take half Ukraine and call it Russian Republic of Eastern Ukraine.

What Turkey did here was 100 times worse, and everybody is playing dumb up until today. We asked for sanctions to a few Turkish Oligarchs to the EU, and every time we go ask what happened they postpone it for eternity. Last time they told us THEY LOST THE FOLDER!!

In view of this I cannot feel anything but disgust for the EU and the whole West, who within days invented a million of sanctions against Russia, while for us they LOST THE FOLDER. Assihtir malakes.

Nobody is in favor of war. Russia itself as well as the vast majority of ex Soviet Republics are not ready to join the "civilized" world, they are all dictatorships who just rip the abandoned wealth via oligarchs, Ukraine included. The West is also very corrupted, but at least we still have most of our civil liberties.
So the question here is not whether Russia is excused or not. Nobody is excused. And we in Cyprus should be very careful who we trust.

How interesting. So far 7 million Ukrainians have abandoned their homes. By the time it will end, it will be 50%.

Your venom against the Turks has not subsided one iota. While Turks took 160,000 properties they left you 60,000 in the south. The Russians are not giving a single property back to the Ukranians.
I was under the impression they already recognised two of the states already.

Wake up wake up you are having a dream. It looks more like they are taking the best bits and leaving the rest to the locals. I seem to remember that the places they have taken already are where all the oil fields are.


Obviously for you 700 thousand and 7 million is the same number. That's just 1.5% of the population, clearly the rich ones who would have some safe vocation nearby and return later.No way near our 37% of the GCs who were sleeping under the trees for months and in tents for years. Just like 60,000 mud brick properties is the same as 160,000 modern concrete made properties or multi-storie hotels in Famagusta.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:16 pm

Turkey does not plan to impose sanctions on Russia
https://tass.com/world/1414535

Kasoulides said that if Turkey won't close it's airspace neither Cyprus will. 8)
At last some balls from our sock puppets...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:17 pm

Lordo wrote:One similarity between the Ukraine war and Cyprus is the fact that of those who have lost their homes in the last week, they had already lost their homes back in 2014 and now they have lost the homes they have set up since a second time.

The exact same thing happened to the TCs back in 1963/4 and they too lost their homes again in 1974 a second time.

What is the saddest aspect of Cyprus Problem is the fact that some of those people who lost their properties twice, were prepared to lose the homes they have set up since 1974 for the third time for peace but thankfully for them the GCs refused to force them out for the third time.


You need to substantiate these statement,

The Crimea was massively ethnic Russian prior to the annexation in 2014. The referendum, where 85% voted to join Russia, didnt have ethnic cleansing.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:20 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:One similarity between the Ukraine war and Cyprus is the fact that of those who have lost their homes in the last week, they had already lost their homes back in 2014 and now they have lost the homes they have set up since a second time.

The exact same thing happened to the TCs back in 1963/4 and they too lost their homes again in 1974 a second time.

What is the saddest aspect of Cyprus Problem is the fact that some of those people who lost their properties twice, were prepared to lose the homes they have set up since 1974 for the third time for peace but thankfully for them the GCs refused to force them out for the third time.


You need to substantiate these statement,

The Crimea was massively ethnic Russian prior to the annexation in 2014. No ethnic cleansing took place there to supplant a fake state.


He doesn't know what he is talking about...
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