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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:15 am

Quote of the century…

All [the US] satellites not only dutifully agree, sing along to its music, but also copy its behavior, and enthusiastically accept the rules they are offered. Therefore, with good reason, we can confidently say that the entire so-called Western bloc, formed by the United States in its own image and likeness, all of it is an ‘empire of lies.’


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:06 am

Russia is out of order, invading a sovereign state and causing the death of thousands , as Turkey did in Cyprus, is inexcusable. My Belarusian wife who is in Belarus tells me that none of het family and friends support the Russian action. It's s crime against humanity to resort to violence against a nation that shares a culture as well as religion with them selves. I stated some time back that I understood Russia's concerns over NATO membership of Ukraine but taking such reckless action is condemnable. Only a psychopath would support such action as evidenced by our resident psycho.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:38 am

miltiades wrote:Russia is out of order, invading a sovereign state and causing the death of thousands , as Turkey did in Cyprus, is inexcusable. My Belarusian wife who is in Belarus tells me that none of het family and friends support the Russian action. It's s crime against humanity to resort to violence against a nation that shares a culture as well as religion with them selves. I stated some time back that I understood Russia's concerns over NATO membership of Ukraine but taking such reckless action is condemnable. Only a psychopath would support such action as evidenced by our resident psycho.

It’s what we’ve been saying here for over a month; that we shouldn’t cross the red line of our giant neighbor!

It’s unfortunate that sometimes we elect representatives that are very bad for us because the sum of their decisions/actions can lead to our catastrophe, as happened right here in Cyprus.

In the case of the Ukraine they’re even dumber than Cyprus because they had already lost a chunk of territory in 2014 (Crimea) but it went right over their heads again and kept insisting on NATO membership!

It makes you wonder who exactly was this string of bad Ukrainian governments, representing?

Russia has been saying all along that they were US puppets… and if their hardheaded catastrophic actions are anything to go by, it appears that Russia was right all along for they cared not for the Ukraine or its citizens!

The perpetrator: A succession of corrupt Zionist puppet regimes serving America.

The victim: The Ukraine and its citizens.

Judgment for the plaintiff!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:46 am

miltiades wrote:Only a psychopath would support such action as evidenced by our resident psycho.

:? Btw, Paphitis doesn’t support Russia’s action against the Ukraine so you’ve either swallowed your dentures or need a nappy change.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:00 am

So why does America and the EU, hate Vladimir Putin so much to the point where he has been BANISHED from the so-called “civilized world”?


Who can answer me this question?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:34 am

Get Real! wrote:So why does America and the EU, hate Vladimir Putin so much to the point where he has been BANISHED from the so-called “civilized world”?


Who can answer me this question?


Every story must have a hero and a villain, no? :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:47 am

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:So why does America and the EU, hate Vladimir Putin so much to the point where he has been BANISHED from the so-called “civilized world”?

Who can answer me this question?

Every story must have a hero and a villain, no? :wink:

OK, but can that be all?

This severing of ties will come at a MASSIVE cost to both the EU and the US, and it’s actually hard to calculate in terms of numbers because there’s the immediate impact and then there’s the long-term unforeseen impact which I’m sure you can all imagine without me going into any detail.

So what would it take for the “civilized world” to no longer care about the astronomical cost and huge risks of such a severing?

Surely there must be something else far more important that takes precedence!

I hope you didn’t assume that it was out of pity for the Ukrainian people!

If you did… they fooled you! :)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:18 am

Get Real! wrote:So why does America and the EU, hate Vladimir Putin so much to the point where he has been BANISHED from the so-called “civilized world”?


Who can answer me this question?

The reason is the USA want's the EU to stop trading with Russia and trade with her. Behind every war there is either trade or lack there of.

What was the purpose of Nato to expand in one instance to a country with a border with Russia. Western media convinced itself that Russia is trying to expand and ignore how much Nato expanded since the collapse of the USSR.

The blame for the current situation mainly is with the USA and UK. They are the ones who enticed Ukraine to want to join Nato. Quite what it is Ukraine going to get from the deal is difficult to see. If they did not want to join Nato Russia would not have attacked them. Ukraine and Nato was warned about this back in 2007 but ignored Putin and this is the result.

And no Milty there is no such thing as sovereignty and has not been since WW2. You have to be in one of three camps, USA, Russia or China. Perhaps you can explain sovereignty to the Venezuelans see what they think of the idea.

BTW the at the root of the Cyprus Problem has always been Nato. It caused it and brought us to this point. You are naïve to think the problem is Turkey or Greece or even the two communities. They are all puppets on a string being pulled by America on one side and Russia on the other to a smaller extent.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:22 am

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:So why does America and the EU, hate Vladimir Putin so much to the point where he has been BANISHED from the so-called “civilized world”?

Who can answer me this question?

Every story must have a hero and a villain, no? :wink:

OK, but can that be all?

This severing of ties will come at a MASSIVE cost to both the EU and the US, and it’s actually hard to calculate in terms of numbers because there’s the immediate impact and then there’s the long-term unforeseen impact which I’m sure you can all imagine without me going into any detail.

So what would it take for the “civilized world” to no longer care about the astronomical cost and huge risks of such a severing?

Surely there must be something else far more important that takes precedence!

I hope you didn’t assume that it was out of pity for the Ukrainian people!

If you did… they fooled you! :)

Those who pull the strings in the west do not give a shit about who will suffer the consequences so long as they have their profits in the end. And that applies as much to their own populations. They are thinking be thankful we are employing you and you are able to feed your family.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:30 am

It can change on a six-pence. Look at what the Germans did in WW2 and look at them now. It is as if it never happened.
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