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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:40 pm

Huh? :)
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:07 am

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:Thanks for your input, Maximus! :)

If you were the president of Turkey would you not be alarmed and concerned about this regional menace they call Israel?

So how would you handle the situation?

Just remember that your country’s very existence will depend on your decisions.


In few words,

Yes, I would be alarmed and concerned and if I was the president of Turkey, I would come to the conclusion that pre-emptive strikes on Israel or capturing and holding hostage Incirlik airbase would be strategically catastrophic, legally indefensible and just plain dumb.

Furthermore, Israel's air superiority and nuclear capabilities would make a Turkish pre-emptied strike suicidal. Any retaliation from Israel could devastate Turkish infrastructure.

Basically there is not much Turkey can do other than to leverage diplomatic channels and maintain a defensive posture by strengthen its border security.

You've basically thrown in the towel... and would be crushed in five or ten years down the line, because Israel has zero tolerance of Muslim nations that have armies and will try to destroy them at the right time.

You would have failed as a president. :(


That's BS. Israel has reached accommodations with Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco. None of whom have publicly claimed that their primary aim is the destruction of the cancerous Zionist entity Israel. Get it? You're hard work but then - closed minds and psychotics always are. :wink:

In other words, only if you agree to turn a blind eye whenever Israel is committing atrocities against women and children and vote against the victims at UN resolutions!

The fine-print goes... "Be in agreement to my never-ending crimes and I will make you a partner I promise to never destroy!" :)

Yup... sounds like the devil's contract!

This is the worst fear of Zionists in America and Israel. All the Arab country leaders who have sold their soul to the devil will topple one by one. It has to start with Israel and the rest will follow.

They will all meet democracy. And I do not mean pretend democracy with a cross on a piece of paper and we will do as we please, proper democracy. Israel is using British Bases in Cyprus now.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:49 pm

What, like a proper democracy where ethnic minorities get a veto and unequitable shares a la Trukish Cypriot style?
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:57 pm

Turkey needs to wake up!

Turkey is shortsighted and foolhardy for not taking advantage of the PERFECT situation that Israel has created for them!

As a result of Israeli actions, Turkey would be COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED and for multiple reasons, to attack Israel for the following reasons…

• The genocide against Palestinians in Gaza

• The never-ending destabilization of the ME created by Israel.

• The Israeli attacks against Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Gaza, W.Bank and Iran.

• The territorial expansion of Israel threatening everyone in the vicinity.

• The murder and attacks against UN personnel, 300 odd journalists and other humanitarian activists.

If not, Turkey will deeply regret not reacting in 5-10 years time because they have been very outspoken and critical of Israel from day one, and the tensions with Israel in Syria are worsening.

Henceforth, I expect that…

• Turkey will not receive any further military upgrades from NATO and will be reliant on domestic and/or alternative sources, so in 10 years time all western arms of Turkey will be obsolete!

• Turkey will no longer receive any aid/funds or made privy to NATO programs, intel and other benefits.

In other words, Israel will push the US into a gradual and complete isolation of Turkey so that in 10 years time Turkey will be militarily obsolete unless they find reliable alternative sources.

This weakening of Turkey will be for the sole purpose of preparing the ground for yet another joint US/Israeli attack after tons of foreign policy lies and deceptions so as to manufacture consent!

Mark my words… even though I probably won’t be here to witness it, I’m pretty sure it’s coming!
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:07 pm

Today, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) began the disarmament process agreed upon with Turkey earlier in the year...

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I don’t know if this is a good move or a bad move for the Turkish Kurds... I guess only time will tell.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Maximus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:12 pm

Are there any credible commitments and genuine reforms by the Turkish government towards the Kurds?

if not, then this is a bad move isn't it.

A Turk holds a grudge forever and Erdogan can not be trusted. :roll:
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Lordo » Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:06 am

Get Real! wrote:Turkey needs to wake up!

Turkey is shortsighted and foolhardy for not taking advantage of the PERFECT situation that Israel has created for them!

As a result of Israeli actions, Turkey would be COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED and for multiple reasons, to attack Israel for the following reasons…

• The genocide against Palestinians in Gaza

• The never-ending destabilization of the ME created by Israel.

• The Israeli attacks against Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Gaza, W.Bank and Iran.

• The territorial expansion of Israel threatening everyone in the vicinity.

• The murder and attacks against UN personnel, 300 odd journalists and other humanitarian activists.

If not, Turkey will deeply regret not reacting in 5-10 years time because they have been very outspoken and critical of Israel from day one, and the tensions with Israel in Syria are worsening.

Henceforth, I expect that…

• Turkey will not receive any further military upgrades from NATO and will be reliant on domestic and/or alternative sources, so in 10 years time all western arms of Turkey will be obsolete!

• Turkey will no longer receive any aid/funds or made privy to NATO programs, intel and other benefits.

In other words, Israel will push the US into a gradual and complete isolation of Turkey so that in 10 years time Turkey will be militarily obsolete unless they find reliable alternative sources.

This weakening of Turkey will be for the sole purpose of preparing the ground for yet another joint US/Israeli attack after tons of foreign policy lies and deceptions so as to manufacture consent!

Mark my words… even though I probably won’t be here to witness it, I’m pretty sure it’s coming!

Turkey is not allowed to attack anybody without American approval. They only invaded Cyprus because America said you can but do not take more than 30%. So they decided to take 37% so they can give back 7% for peace. But you boys refused it on every turn. There is an old Cypriot saying. You can take the donkey to the water but you cannot make it drink.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Lordo » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:31 pm

Israel is working with Azerbaijan and is almost at the point of starting a war between Russia and Azerbaijan.

https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/07/azerbaijan-russia-arguments?lang=en

The PKK issued a statement from the fighters who were laying down their weapons, saying that they had disarmed “as a gesture of goodwill and a commitment to the practical success” of the peace process.

“We will henceforth continue our struggle for freedom, democracy, and socialism through democratic politics and legal means,” the statement said.

The state-run Iraqi News Agency reported that 30 fighters had disarmed “symbolically” on Friday, and that the continuing disarmament process “will take place in stages.” The process is expected to be completed by September, the agency reported.


I am pleased that some of our members were very supportive of PKK considering their own political credentials and what PKK stood for.
Notice in a unitary state like Turkey it is clear that democracy and freedom clearly does not apply to everybody otherwise why would they continue to struggle for it. I do have some bad news for my friends in PKK though. They may have not realised that there is no democracy or freedom u=in the West. Oh yes of course we have election and we are allowed to put a cross on a piece of paper but if that is the meaning of democracy we have made no progress since the Ancient Greeks regarding the matter.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:18 am

It appears that Israel has a plan for Syria but Turkey does not!

Earlier, the foolish Jihadists had entered Druze territory and assaulted a couple of hundred citizens before the Israelis started bombing them.

The Jihadists’ reckless sectarian behavior suggests that Turkey does not control or even guide them!

Today Israel... having bombed lots of Syrian government buildings; now occupied by the Jihadists who think they are in power, has triggered the Syrian Druze; now acting as Israeli paramilitaries and under the cover of the IDF, to head for Jihadist towns to confront them!

If this trend continues the Turkey-backed jihadists will probably get wiped, and we could end up with a minority Druze-run Syrian government that is in alliance with Israel.

Turkey, is taking too long to make a move which could indicate that they've given up on their Syrian adventure.

Turkey’s current failure in Syria and previous failure to strike Israel when they were badly wounded and vulnerable, could set the path to Turkey’s future destruction because the one thing that is guaranteed is that Israel is NEVER gonna stop unless all neighbors are de-fanged; and Erdogan doesn’t seem to get that, to Turkey's detriment!

Erdogan, seems to assume that Israel won’t venture past the ME but those who know the “Greater Israel” plan, know otherwise!


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