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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Maximus » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:43 pm

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The Jihadists’ reckless sectarian behavior suggests that Turkey does not control or even guide them!



All based on the assumption that Turkey occupies swathes of Syria to ensure their sovereign integrity, peace and stability and is not there to purposefully destabilize it to achieve ulterior motives of course.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Lordo » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:It appears that Israel has a plan for Syria but Turkey does not!

Earlier, the foolish Jihadists had entered Druze territory and assaulted a couple of hundred citizens before the Israelis started bombing them.

The Jihadists’ reckless sectarian behavior suggests that Turkey does not control or even guide them!

Today Israel... having bombed lots of Syrian government buildings; now occupied by the Jihadists who think they are in power, has triggered the Syrian Druze; now acting as Israeli paramilitaries and under the cover of the IDF, to head for Jihadist towns to confront them!

If this trend continues the Turkey-backed jihadists will probably get wiped, and we could end up with a minority Druze-run Syrian government that is in alliance with Israel.

Turkey, is taking too long to make a move which could indicate that they've given up on their Syrian adventure.

Turkey’s current failure in Syria and previous failure to strike Israel when they were badly wounded and vulnerable, could set the path to Turkey’s future destruction because the one thing that is guaranteed is that Israel is NEVER gonna stop unless all neighbors are de-fanged; and Erdogan doesn’t seem to get that, to Turkey's detriment!

Erdogan, seems to assume that Israel won’t venture past the ME but those who know the “Greater Israel” plan, know otherwise!


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Turkey does not exercise any power on the groups in Syria except one group. They are the Turkomen of Syria which is similar to Iraq too. These people are under Turkish control.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:15 pm

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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:23 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
The Jihadists’ reckless sectarian behavior suggests that Turkey does not control or even guide them!



All based on the assumption that Turkey occupies swathes of Syria to ensure their sovereign integrity, peace and stability and is not there to purposefully destabilize it to achieve ulterior motives of course.

We’re past the destabilization stage of Syria; official Syrian government long ousted and sectarian strife established.

The important thing now is what comes post-destabilization… and Israel has already indicated its intentions, but Turkey remains a mystery.

If Erdogan had a plan I don’t see it materializing... he clearly doesn’t have control of al-Sharaa.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:13 pm

Syria update:

Syrian tribes allied to the jihadists mobilized against Druze fighters in the southern governorate of al-Suwayda…

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Oh, and the best part... :lol:

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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Maximus » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
The Jihadists’ reckless sectarian behavior suggests that Turkey does not control or even guide them!



All based on the assumption that Turkey occupies swathes of Syria to ensure their sovereign integrity, peace and stability and is not there to purposefully destabilize it to achieve ulterior motives of course.

We’re past the destabilization stage of Syria; official Syrian government long ousted and sectarian strife established.

The important thing now is what comes post-destabilization… and Israel has already indicated its intentions, but Turkey remains a mystery.

If Erdogan had a plan I don’t see it materializing... he clearly doesn’t have control of al-Sharaa.


Erdogans Turkey was a central force in the ousting of the Assad regime. Turkey mobilized military, financial, logistical and diplomatic support for the opposition groups, including ISIS, which enabled their offensives to overthrow the government. Many political analysts and country leaders, including the US and some Arab states, have acknowledged that the fall of the Assad regime would likely have been impossible without Turkish backing. Even Assad himself in his final days, was complaining to Iranian officials about Turkey’s support for the rebel coalitions trying to topple him.

Now, that is only part of the plan because Erdogan fell out with him over some gas pipelines that he wanted to run through Turkey. But, If you are paying attention to recent events, the other part of the plan was to block the Kurds from establishing autonomous regions in northern Syria and in Turkeys' south east by occupying swatches of Syrian land, then engage in a bit of demographic re-engineering. Such as, moving Syrian refugees in Turkey to the those areas.

So I argue that the Turkish plan is in maintaining sufficient destabilization in Syria to justify and sustain its control over significant territories it currently occupies and potentially expand further (The Israeli encroachment?). Turkey supports and arms a range of Syrian proxy groups, including jihadist factions and foreign mercenaries, with some being accused of human rights abuses and ethnic cleansing.

Turkey is using these Jihadists and is seeking to erect Sunni Islamist puppet zones in Syria under its influence, to project her neo-Ottoman ambitions. Where have we seen this before? northern occupied Cyprus perhaps?

Thats why I say, think three times before supporting Turkey. Whatever you accuse Israel of, Turkey has done or is also doing it and probably on a much larger scale. The Syrian civil war cost half a million lives (not 50K) and millions more refugees.

Your support for Turkey might end up becoming the Cypriot encroachment, not the Israeli one.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 19, 2025 12:33 pm

Maximus wrote:Thats why I say, think three times before supporting Turkey. Whatever you accuse Israel of, Turkey has done or is also doing it and probably on a much larger scale. The Syrian civil war cost half a million lives (not 50K) and millions more refugees.

Your support for Turkey might end up becoming the Cypriot encroachment, not the Israeli one.

Just take your computer back and tell them you're too fucking stupid to own one. Thanks.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Maximus » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Thats why I say, think three times before supporting Turkey. Whatever you accuse Israel of, Turkey has done or is also doing it and probably on a much larger scale. The Syrian civil war cost half a million lives (not 50K) and millions more refugees.

Your support for Turkey might end up becoming the Cypriot encroachment, not the Israeli one.

Just take your computer back and tell them you're too fucking stupid to own one. Thanks.


I tried that but as it turns out, they said I'm being stupid and wasting my time by replying to morons like you and Bordo.
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Re: Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment…

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:18 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Thats why I say, think three times before supporting Turkey. Whatever you accuse Israel of, Turkey has done or is also doing it and probably on a much larger scale. The Syrian civil war cost half a million lives (not 50K) and millions more refugees.

Your support for Turkey might end up becoming the Cypriot encroachment, not the Israeli one.

Just take your computer back and tell them you're too fucking stupid to own one. Thanks.


I tried that but as it turns out, they said I'm being stupid and wasting my time by replying to morons like you and Bordo.


I'm sure you will be well aware but........

Both GR and Lordo have zero tolerance for anybody having a difference of opinion with them. No matter how well meaning and logical an alternate view might be.

Ideally, Lordo wants to post his views on matters without any discussion. In essence, he wants to use this "forum" as a Blog. Most have tended to completely ignore him - which meets his desires ideally. Those that take the trouble to point out his errors or inconsistencies invariably end up on the receiving end of juvenile insults about janitors/toilet brushes (he has an anal fixation) or join half the planet in being "swinecunts".

GR has a different approach. His usual reaction is along the bully boy lines. I've had the "take your PC back to the shop" three times I think. If you get too close to the bone it's along the lines of "I refuse to talk to ill educated peasants". If you really hit the back of the net you get ignored. Much simpler for him.

The trouble with blocking is you don't of course know what's being said. Ask GR, he's had a lot of experience. Better just to ignore. Although, the occasional temptation to respond, indirectly, tends to give the game away.

I would never block or ignore somebody - even Lordo ( :lol: ). It's a clear signal that you don't have the confidence to defend your POV.

As far as GR's bully boy stuff goes. He's actually a pussy cat. It's all keyboard warrior stuff. :wink:
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