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[rolo]

oh please lets not go down that road. there is probably not one cypriot who has not had a close relative or friend killed.
i m sorry for your gf. he died the same way as my gf and my gm too , at the hands of grivas, shot to pieces hiding in their beds, whilst being under the so-called protection of a cypriot govt.

no one said your fathers should have got out a megaphone, that would have been daft. but please dont get carried away with the notion that they fought for the protection of all cypriots, when only a few years earlier Makarios was overseeing the killings of hundreds of tcs. That would have been even more stupid, and to ask this forum to believe it, even more stupid still.

to my knowledge no tc stood up for the gcs in 74. but no tc claims that they did.

so

[andri_cy]

I never claimed that there werent Cypriots killing other Cypriots and I never claimed Makarios was a saint.
As far as what my fathers fought for please dont get carried away trying to tell me something that I know better than you. What other people's fathers and uncles and whatever did I dont know, but I know about mine. It is sad that you just want to believe the worst, because even though the history of my family and many other families, I am sure that somewhere there has to be a TC that stood up for a GC no matter what I want to believe. Maybe its cause I try to see the best in everyone. Even someone as bitter and negative as you

[rolo]

please let me repeat myself

i know most gcs are good hearted people. i know of some who put themselves betwen eoka gunmen and tcs risking their own lives to save tc lives.

funny thing is that in the 60's makarios could do no wrong, yet now more and more gcs have a different view of him, and are begining to see the side of him the tcs saw and how he lead Cyprus into the present situation.

As i have said i sympathise with your grandparents, and i do mean that, just as i sympathise with every other cypriot, but things could not have continued the way they were going.

[Piratis]

Turkey is an aggressive military ruled country made by 70 million people, with one of the top 10 armies in the world and with strategic interests in Cyprus. Anybody that can not see what is the true reason of the conflict in Cyprus and he is stuck on the surface and on the lame excuses he is either not very smart or simply such excuses are what suit him best.

[Natty]

when only a few years earlier Makarios was overseeing the killings of hundreds of tcs.

Hey Rolo, I have to admit that in all my research I have never come across any claims that Makarios was ordering the murders of TC's, or that there was a government policy to have the TC's killed...As far as I can tell it was the GC irregular extremists who were attacking the TC's and GC's alike, and vice versa....

Although, again I could be wrong...

Peace!

[cypezokyli]

but rolo didnot say "ordered" but "oversaw"

different, but in a sense related concepts.

[Natty]

Hey Cypezoykli, urm...I don't know..I don't think it was Makarios's intention to have people die...TC and GC alike...I mean as far as I know, wasn't it Makarios that invited the UN peacekeeping forces to come to Cyprus after the 1963 inter-communal crisis?

Although (as always ) I could be wrong...

Peace!

[Natty]

Hi, I have a bit of a query...I was wandering, am I right to say the main inter-communal fighting occurred in 1958, 1963 and 1967? And in 1974 the situation had started to improve? Another thing I am slightly confused about...

Peace!

[sajica58]

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Rahmi, absolutely no TC was attacked or harmed during the Junta coup, or as a direct or indirect result of the coup. Stop giving this false impression that the TCs were somehow attacked during the coup for any reason, because it is not accurate. Any of the TCs that were harmed in 1974, were harmed after the Turkish invasion, either because they were militarily aiding the invading forces or in acts of revenge against them by irregulars, after the Turkish invasion and because of the Turkish invasion! The reaction of the TC leadership at the time the coup took place, in the words of Denktash himself, was that the issue of the coup did not affect them or relate with them (TCs) and it was an internal issue among the GCs. Learn your history, or better ask your elders, people that had actually lived through the events, and live the Turkish propaganda websites alone, as you won't find the truth there! And, please do some proper studding before coming here, because if we just want to learn what the Turkish propaganda says, we may as well visit those Turkish propaganda websites by ourselves and read all the nonsense and lies they say. We do not need anyone here to simply re-transmit the nonsense of such websites into this forum.[/quote]


Kifeas,

What rubbish, you talk sometimes(i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here!)
Why don't you read and learn your history, you will be suprised to learn that greeks ,turks brits and yanks all managed to screw up cyprus, all for their own needs. You keep going on about lies from the otherside, while promoting your own.
two wrongs don't make a right.
I await a telling off with bated breath!!!

[cypezokyli]

sajica58 could you tell us the tc persons or villages that were attacked between 15-20 july 1974 ?

not before and after , that we know already.