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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:28 pm

Londonrake wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7r4VMTM2GE


Pitter patter, pitter patter. Cue Tyrants-R-Us apologist.



I dunno... :?

Isn't Bellingcat one of his favoured independent' sources of info...? :wink:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:30 pm

No sorry, but I don't have any comment to make to the clueless!
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:45 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis ..... any comment?

Not quite as isolated an incident after all ..... although in this instance an Airbus 380, not a Boeing, but the indications are very similar ........ comment is from another forum!

A post by Airbornewolf at russiadefence.net

This whole airliner crash made me remember Qantas flight 32. That A380 had some similarities.

1. A few minutes after take-off they lost control of one of their engines. It had oil leak causing the engine rev up uncontrollably until it catastrophically exploded.

2. Resulting shrapnel tore trough the cabin, it also tore trough a lot of flight control cables. Among other's, all communication systems went down, including GPS positioning and radio's. They only had one very basic VHF radio that remained.

3. The blowout compromised heavily the flight control systems, in Qantas 32 case. They lost among flaps also one hydraulic system and other engine's control systems where damaged too, resulting in loss in thrust in the remaining engines. Also the wing got perforated by the explosion and subsequent shrapnel resulting in fuel in the wing igniting. this later extinguished itself while the crew turned into an holding pattern while they where diagnosing the aircraft.

4. Even the Qantas crew did not realize what happened except for the loud bang they heard. and where working the flood of error messages in the flight computer. They learned of what happened with the engine when one of the flight attendants came up and told them the engine had disintegrated and tore trough the wing and cabin. The flight computer came up with critical messages faster as the 5 man pilot crew could work through.

5. Qantas HQ just got a burst of information of Flight 32's before it stopped completely. Reporting multiple system failures. Its similar as the abrupt failure of communications with the Iran airliner.

6. The Iranians mentioned the aircraft reported "technical problems". With Qantas Flight 32, before Engine 2 tore itself apart and send shrapnel trough the wing and cabin the instruments kept warning the engine was overheating.

So, i take this "Iran shot down an airliner" with an very big grain of salt as it has similarities with QF fight 32.


A related video ............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wBjhoh9Q1c



Perhaps you should look it up on Wiki instead of one of your fantasy wankfest sites...? :lol:


I don't know where RH is getting his information from, but QF32 was hardly a catastrophic even although it had the potential to be a catastrophe.

QANTAS has never lost a hull in its entire history making the airline one of the safest in the world.

They actually came close when a B717 made a rough landing after severe wind shear during a convective monsoonal storm when landing in Darwin. The Air Frame was rippled to such an extent that it would cost less to buy a new aircraft, so the insurance underwriters wanted to write it up. In the end QANTAS spent 80 million to repair the aircraft which was only worth about 20 million so they could retain their impressive record.

they could have bought 4 B717s for that money.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis ..... any comment?

Not quite as isolated an incident after all ..... although in this instance an Airbus 380, not a Boeing, but the indications are very similar ........ comment is from another forum!

A post by Airbornewolf at russiadefence.net

This whole airliner crash made me remember Qantas flight 32. That A380 had some similarities.

1. A few minutes after take-off they lost control of one of their engines. It had oil leak causing the engine rev up uncontrollably until it catastrophically exploded.

2. Resulting shrapnel tore trough the cabin, it also tore trough a lot of flight control cables. Among other's, all communication systems went down, including GPS positioning and radio's. They only had one very basic VHF radio that remained.

3. The blowout compromised heavily the flight control systems, in Qantas 32 case. They lost among flaps also one hydraulic system and other engine's control systems where damaged too, resulting in loss in thrust in the remaining engines. Also the wing got perforated by the explosion and subsequent shrapnel resulting in fuel in the wing igniting. this later extinguished itself while the crew turned into an holding pattern while they where diagnosing the aircraft.

4. Even the Qantas crew did not realize what happened except for the loud bang they heard. and where working the flood of error messages in the flight computer. They learned of what happened with the engine when one of the flight attendants came up and told them the engine had disintegrated and tore trough the wing and cabin. The flight computer came up with critical messages faster as the 5 man pilot crew could work through.

5. Qantas HQ just got a burst of information of Flight 32's before it stopped completely. Reporting multiple system failures. Its similar as the abrupt failure of communications with the Iran airliner.

6. The Iranians mentioned the aircraft reported "technical problems". With Qantas Flight 32, before Engine 2 tore itself apart and send shrapnel trough the wing and cabin the instruments kept warning the engine was overheating.

So, i take this "Iran shot down an airliner" with an very big grain of salt as it has similarities with QF fight 32.


A related video ............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wBjhoh9Q1c



Perhaps you should look it up on Wiki instead of one of your fantasy wankfest sites...? :lol:


I don't know where RH is getting his information from, but QF32 was hardly a catastrophic even although it had the potential to be a catastrophe.

QANTAS has never lost a hull in its entire history making the airline one of the safest in the world.

They actually came close when a B717 made a rough landing after severe wind shear during a convective monsoonal storm when landing in Darwin. The Air Frame was rippled to such an extent that it would cost less to buy a new aircraft, so the insurance underwriters wanted to write it up. In the end QANTAS spent 80 million to repair the aircraft which was only worth about 20 million so they could retain their impressive record.

they could have bought 4 B717s for that money.


His arse...? :lol:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:QANTAS has never lost a hull in its entire history making the airline one of the safest in the world.

They actually came close when a B717 made a rough landing after severe wind shear during a convective monsoonal storm when landing in Darwin. The Air Frame was rippled to such an extent that it would cost less to buy a new aircraft, so the insurance underwriters wanted to write it up. In the end QANTAS spent 80 million to repair the aircraft which was only worth about 20 million so they could retain their impressive record.

they could have bought 4 B717s for that money.


I flew to Beijing a couple of times with Air China...

The first time was about a month after they had 'lost' (I think) an Airbus...

The safety video played and proudly proclaimed, "Air China velly safe aline, never lose aircraft"... Which didn't seem unreasonable given the timescale... :)

However, a year later I took the same flight (LHR Beijing) and the safety video came on... "Air China velly safe aline, never lose aircraft"... :lol:

Another 'feature' of the trip was despite being in a no-smoking section (upstairs on a 747-400) and the no-smoking signs being illuminated, as soon as we were wheels up leaving Heathrow half the crew came out of the cockpit and lit cigarettes! :lol:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:46 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Londonrake wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7r4VMTM2GE


Pitter patter, pitter patter. Cue Tyrants-R-Us apologist.



I dunno... :?

Isn't Bellingcat one of his favoured independent' sources of info...? :wink:


Actually NO, it's one of yours but you are not aware of that obviously!

Bellingcat are the ones the MSM rely upon for information and is associated with MI6 and funded by the UK Government, among others....... they provided info on MH17, Douma (Syria), Ghouta (Syria), Skripals, for instance. Information on Syria exclusively provided by terrorist elements such as , Al-Nusra, Al-Qaida, FSA, White Helmets (US/EU/UK funded) etc.and have been consistently proved to have extreme bias, consistently misrepresent accounts and guilty of falsifying videos to suit the official line. They get the information often through unknown sources and social media. Elliot Higgins .... the owner is an ex-Ladies under-ware salesman and a 'gamer and has no qualifications in anything!

Bellingcat is a site I would not touch with a barge pole and truly is a Wankfest organisation .......... so it is right up your street! :roll:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:52 pm

Paphitis wrote:No sorry, but I don't have any comment to make to the clueless!


Well at least you don't talk to yourself then ..... which is encouraging! :roll:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:43 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis ..... any comment?

Not quite as isolated an incident after all ..... although in this instance an Airbus 380, not a Boeing, but the indications are very similar ........ comment is from another forum!

A post by Airbornewolf at russiadefence.net

This whole airliner crash made me remember Qantas flight 32. That A380 had some similarities.

1. A few minutes after take-off they lost control of one of their engines. It had oil leak causing the engine rev up uncontrollably until it catastrophically exploded.

2. Resulting shrapnel tore trough the cabin, it also tore trough a lot of flight control cables. Among other's, all communication systems went down, including GPS positioning and radio's. They only had one very basic VHF radio that remained.

3. The blowout compromised heavily the flight control systems, in Qantas 32 case. They lost among flaps also one hydraulic system and other engine's control systems where damaged too, resulting in loss in thrust in the remaining engines. Also the wing got perforated by the explosion and subsequent shrapnel resulting in fuel in the wing igniting. this later extinguished itself while the crew turned into an holding pattern while they where diagnosing the aircraft.

4. Even the Qantas crew did not realize what happened except for the loud bang they heard. and where working the flood of error messages in the flight computer. They learned of what happened with the engine when one of the flight attendants came up and told them the engine had disintegrated and tore trough the wing and cabin. The flight computer came up with critical messages faster as the 5 man pilot crew could work through.

5. Qantas HQ just got a burst of information of Flight 32's before it stopped completely. Reporting multiple system failures. Its similar as the abrupt failure of communications with the Iran airliner.

6. The Iranians mentioned the aircraft reported "technical problems". With Qantas Flight 32, before Engine 2 tore itself apart and send shrapnel trough the wing and cabin the instruments kept warning the engine was overheating.

So, i take this "Iran shot down an airliner" with an very big grain of salt as it has similarities with QF fight 32.


A related video ............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wBjhoh9Q1c



Perhaps you should look it up on Wiki instead of one of your fantasy wankfest sites...? :lol:


I don't know where RH is getting his information from, but QF32 was hardly a catastrophic even although it had the potential to be a catastrophe.

QANTAS has never lost a hull in its entire history making the airline one of the safest in the world.

They actually came close when a B717 made a rough landing after severe wind shear during a convective monsoonal storm when landing in Darwin. The Air Frame was rippled to such an extent that it would cost less to buy a new aircraft, so the insurance underwriters wanted to write it up. In the end QANTAS spent 80 million to repair the aircraft which was only worth about 20 million so they could retain their impressive record.

they could have bought 4 B717s for that money.


His arse...? :lol:


At least I know my sources and credibility …… you don’t even know WHAT or WHO your sources are, otherwise you would have known BellingCat was a primary source for most of the MSM and were sponsored by MI6!

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With a bucket on your head the only place you can communicate is through your arsehole ! With those handicap's is it any wonder you are clueless and spew shit ? :lol: :lol:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:03 pm

It's good to see you've not lost that remarkable ability you have for getting on with people in forums. :wink:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:10 pm

Londonrake wrote:It's good to see you've not lost that remarkable ability you have for getting on with people in forums. :wink:



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