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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:36 am

Now I expect all of you to be saying I'm a looney conspiracist and tin foil hat person. I am no conspiracist however.

Those of you who don't know what the great reset is, I suggest you do your own research, It's a real thing being discussed at the World Economic Forum which is attended by the British Royals, establishment elites and Billionaires from all over the world. The very people who will NEVER suffer the consequences.

You and I however will. And it is about controlling all of us - what we can do, what we can say, what we can own. EVERYTHING!

It's about punishing all of us for daring to challenge them.

And the left are lapping it all up like sheeple. The days when the left was on the side of the battler are long gone.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:38 am

Get Real! wrote:Paphitis, will have to choose wisely which US state he moves to when the time comes... :?

http://www.bazelon.org/wp-content/uploa ... of-PWD.pdf


That's not how it works.

I am a big supporter and believer in the US. I'm probably the kind of guy they like, because I believe in that country and what it stands for.

I consider them to be the global leader for what is good, democratic and the benchmark in human and civil rights,

And I will still believe in that country if Biden is inaugurated and I also believe and hope that the country can heal itself and move on.

That's the difference between most of us who support the US. We won't hold the country to ransom for 4 years like the democrats do. You may however expect a rough ride from us for the next few weeks and maybe a few months on top of that which is the least we can do.

I always respect the US and every part of it from California to Maine.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:59 am

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Get Real! wrote:Paphitis, will have to choose wisely which US state he moves to when the time comes... :?

http://www.bazelon.org/wp-content/uploa ... of-PWD.pdf


He will end up in a “Blue State“, California, Illinois or New York. :D


What about Florida and Texas? I'll fit in there as well.

But Denver is also looking good for quality of life. And nearly half the people voted for Trump there. It's got a strong red tinge to it.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:01 am

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The Trump team cannot introduce new evidence to the SC. The SC does not hold a new trial. They look into the merits of the case to which an appeal has been asked for from the lower courts, so I do not buy the bullshit Powell is spreading out that she has an ace up her knickers. She is just as clueless as Giuliani. They are just making more money from Trump supporters legal funds to fill their pockets. :D


Bullshit you can't submit new evidence. They can do what they like as the evidence comes to hand.

Sydney Powell isn't clueless. She is by all accounts an ace lawyer and my experience with these kind of lawyers is that they don't kid around, or give their client a false hope. Everything is thoroughly and methodically assessed for the risk to their client and also likelihood of success.

No Paphitis, during the appeals court hearing/deliberation, new evidence cannot be introduced to the Supreme Court. The whole purpose is to appeal the lower courts verdict based on argument and evidence produced by the defendant (Trump) at the lower court. Fairly basic really. If Trump has new evidence, then they will need to file another lawsuit with the lower court first and then appeal that verdict if they wanted, assuming it is acceptable to the appellate courts to hear it. :wink:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:10 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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The Trump team cannot introduce new evidence to the SC. The SC does not hold a new trial. They look into the merits of the case to which an appeal has been asked for from the lower courts, so I do not buy the bullshit Powell is spreading out that she has an ace up her knickers. She is just as clueless as Giuliani. They are just making more money from Trump supporters legal funds to fill their pockets. :D


Bullshit you can't submit new evidence. They can do what they like as the evidence comes to hand.

Sydney Powell isn't clueless. She is by all accounts an ace lawyer and my experience with these kind of lawyers is that they don't kid around, or give their client a false hope. Everything is thoroughly and methodically assessed for the risk to their client and also likelihood of success.

No Paphitis, during the appeals court hearing/deliberation, new evidence cannot be introduced to the Supreme Court. The whole purpose is to appeal the lower courts verdict based on argument and evidence produced by the defendant (Trump) at the lower court. Fairly basic really. If Trump has new evidence, then they will need to file another lawsuit with the lower court first and then appeal that verdict if they wanted, assuming it is acceptable to the appellate courts to hear it. :wink:


Sydney Powell will beg to differ.

In addition, Dominion did not attend a fact finding commission. They too are preparing for an onslaught.

The more you look into it, the more I think they have a lot to hide.

The Trump Legal team are drawing the battle lines Kikapu. It all points the finger squarely at Dominion. Right now, their executives are dropping off like flies and running for the hills. So why so much panic?

Do not forget the fact that if Sydney is flinging around defamatory and untrue allegations, they themselves are open to action from Dominion's Lawyers. There is a lot here to consider.

I've seen stuff like this before. Not on this scale though obviously. Legal Action is a very risky proposition for all parties. You can never tell what can happen which is why lawyers need to manage the risks to their clients and give good advice.

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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:31 am

Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/22/20 02:17 PM EST

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... -to-switch
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:40 am

Kikapu wrote:Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/22/20 02:17 PM EST

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... -to-switch


Of course he would say that.

But Sydney doesn't agree, and intends to put that to the test!

It's funny this spokesman didn't put his name to the statement so that Sydney can cross examine his statement.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:01 am

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Kikapu wrote:Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/22/20 02:17 PM EST

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... -to-switch


Of course he would say that.

But Sydney doesn't agree, and intends to put that to the test!

It's funny this spokesman didn't put his name to the statement so that Sydney can cross examine his statement.


The spokesman’s name for Dominion is Michael Steel.

Well, it's physically impossible," Steel said of vote switching. "Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen. They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots. and in every case where we've looked at -- in Georgia, all across the country -- the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

Powell claimed in an interview with Newsmax that Dominion "has a long history of rigging elections" and that this is "what it was created to do to begin with." She has said she has a witness who saw it used for this purpose in Venezuela, and that the votes for the U.S. election were counted in countries such as Spain and Germany. Steel flatly rejected this notion.

"We simply provide a tool to count the ballots -- to print and count ballots," he said. "There is no way such a massive fraud could have taken place, and there are no connection between our company and Venezuela, Germany, Barcelona, Kathmandu, whatever the latest conspiracy theory is."

Steel said that Dominion is a "nonpartisan, American company" and said the company is funded by American capitalists, not foreign actors.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:07 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/22/20 02:17 PM EST

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... -to-switch


Of course he would say that.

But Sydney doesn't agree, and intends to put that to the test!

It's funny this spokesman didn't put his name to the statement so that Sydney can cross examine his statement.


The spokesman’s name for Dominion is Michael Steel.

Well, it's physically impossible," Steel said of vote switching. "Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen. They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots. and in every case where we've looked at -- in Georgia, all across the country -- the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

Powell claimed in an interview with Newsmax that Dominion "has a long history of rigging elections" and that this is "what it was created to do to begin with." She has said she has a witness who saw it used for this purpose in Venezuela, and that the votes for the U.S. election were counted in countries such as Spain and Germany. Steel flatly rejected this notion.

"We simply provide a tool to count the ballots -- to print and count ballots," he said. "There is no way such a massive fraud could have taken place, and there are no connection between our company and Venezuela, Germany, Barcelona, Kathmandu, whatever the latest conspiracy theory is."

Steel said that Dominion is a "nonpartisan, American company" and said the company is funded by American capitalists, not foreign actors.


Yes, that is another claim being made. Many elections around the world have been fixed by the same software.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:23 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/22/20 02:17 PM EST

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... -to-switch


Of course he would say that.

But Sydney doesn't agree, and intends to put that to the test!

It's funny this spokesman didn't put his name to the statement so that Sydney can cross examine his statement.


The spokesman’s name for Dominion is Michael Steel.

Well, it's physically impossible," Steel said of vote switching. "Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen. They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots. and in every case where we've looked at -- in Georgia, all across the country -- the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

Powell claimed in an interview with Newsmax that Dominion "has a long history of rigging elections" and that this is "what it was created to do to begin with." She has said she has a witness who saw it used for this purpose in Venezuela, and that the votes for the U.S. election were counted in countries such as Spain and Germany. Steel flatly rejected this notion.

"We simply provide a tool to count the ballots -- to print and count ballots," he said. "There is no way such a massive fraud could have taken place, and there are no connection between our company and Venezuela, Germany, Barcelona, Kathmandu, whatever the latest conspiracy theory is."

Steel said that Dominion is a "nonpartisan, American company" and said the company is funded by American capitalists, not foreign actors.


Yes, that is another claim being made. Many elections around the world have been fixed by the same software.


Claim, claims, claims, claims? :roll:

How about some evidence for a change? :roll:

Let’s keep the evidence relating to the USA and to this election! :D
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