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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:16 pm

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You can forget the Golan Heights. The Syrians will never see The Golan heights again. The elevated topography is of critical importance to Israel's Security from the battle hardened terrorist Hezbollah thugs and Iranian Republican Guard Forces and their Assad lapdogs in Syria.


You really will believe anything! :roll: On one hand you tell us how you and all your allies are so advanced they can defeat anyone, and yet you believe the Israeli’s want the Golan for its topography? :lol: :lol: :lol: ..... like they use binoculars to see what is going on! :roll: Surely all the time they are protected by your P-8’s the odd bit of hilly ground should not be a problem?

The Israeli’s took Golan because they wanted the water aquifers and later the oil/gas deposits. It has sod all to do with the topography. The Zionists are thieves ...... they take what they want and the only reason they have hung on to the spoils of their aggression is because they have stolen the US Senate and Congress from the American people. All the major corporations are under their control and money talks. Those in Washington are the Israeli’s bitch, but the American people will soon rise against them and their Zionist bitch leaders!

I am glad you recognise that Hezbollah and the IRG are battle hardened, but terrorists they are, only in the eyes of Israel and the US ..... and of course those with your mentality. The Israeli’s know well that if they had to face either of them on their own, they would lose horribly. Why do you think they are petrified of either having bases in Syria?

The day of retribution will come for Israel and then the weeping and wailing will start to gain sympathy ...... we were the victims of the Holocaust; The UN is unfair; the World is unfair; unjustly pick on poor defenceless Israel and disregard all the sufferings of Gods chosen people over the centuries! After all, take at all those 100+ UN resolutions against them ........ that is very obvious proof they are victims of unfair treatment! :roll:

I wonder why everywhere the Hebrews/Jews/Zionists/Israeli’s go, the rest of the population of the region turns against them? :x
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:29 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
You can forget the Golan Heights. The Syrians will never see The Golan heights again. The elevated topography is of critical importance to Israel's Security from the battle hardened terrorist Hezbollah thugs and Iranian Republican Guard Forces and their Assad lapdogs in Syria.


You really will believe anything! :roll: On one hand you tell us how you and all your allies are so advanced they can defeat anyone, and yet you believe the Israeli’s want the Golan for its topography? :lol: :lol: :lol: ..... like they use binoculars to see what is going on! :roll: Surely all the time they are protected by your P-8’s the odd bit of hilly ground should not be a problem?

The Israeli’s took Golan because they wanted the water aquifers and later the oil/gas deposits. It has sod all to do with the topography. The Zionists are thieves ...... they take what they want and the only reason they have hung on to the spoils of their aggression is because they have stolen the US Senate and Congress from the American people. All the major corporations are under their control and money talks. Those in Washington are the Israeli’s bitch, but the American people will soon rise against them and their Zionist bitch leaders!

I am glad you recognise that Hezbollah and the IRG are battle hardened, but terrorists they are, only in the eyes of Israel and the US ..... and of course those with your mentality. The Israeli’s know well that if they had to face either of them on their own, they would lose horribly. Why do you think they are petrified of either having bases in Syria?

The day of retribution will come for Israel and then the weeping and wailing will start to gain sympathy ...... we were the victims of the Holocaust; The UN is unfair; the World is unfair; unjustly pick on poor defenceless Israel and disregard all the sufferings of Gods chosen people over the centuries! After all, take at all those 100+ UN resolutions against them ........ that is very obvious proof they are victims of unfair treatment! :roll:

I wonder why everywhere the Hebrews/Jews/Zionists/Israeli’s go, the rest of the population of the region turns against them? :x


Oh dear, such a long winded post over nothing.

It still doesn't change the reality. Israel needs the Golan Heights for its security against the Battle Hardened Hezbollah and Iranian Republican Guard,

You said it yourself that they are battle hardened and that the IDF and CNG are no match for them, so therefore, Israel needs every advantage it can get and that includes the Golan heights.

Hezbollah and Iranian Republican Guard are gonna have to come and get it. Come on, what's keeping them?

There are many countries who consider Hezbollah as a terrorist organization. Australia, Canada, Japan, new Zealand and the EU consider Hezbollah a terrorist and illegal organisation. It's not just the USA and Israel.

I think the day of reckoning for Israel is a long way off.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:40 pm

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It still doesn't change the reality, Israel needs the Golan Heights for its security against the Battle Hardened Hezbollah and Iranian Republican Guard
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'Reality' does not make it right! Golan belongs to Syria! The Israeli claim is not recognised in International Law. Israel is occupying land that is stolen! Would you accept the same argument for the Turkish occupation of northern Cyprus or Russia's need for Crimea to protect THEIR security? :roll:
Hezbollah and Iranian Republican Guard are gonna have to come and get it. Come on, what's keeping them?

At the moment they are busy getting rid of the terrorists the US coalition has been illegally arming and supporting in Syria since 2011. I would hazard a guess that after that Syria will politely ask, through the UN for Israel to vacate their occupied land according to International Law. If they don’t Syria and its invited allies would be entitled to request a UN Mandate to remove them by force. Oh, I forgot ...... the US and its partners in crime would veto any such request ...... to protect Israel. :roll: :x
There are many countries who consider Hezbollah as a terrorist organization. Australia, Canada, Japan, new Zealand and the EU consider Hezbollah a terrorist and illegal organisation. It's not just the USA and Israel.

They just all happen to be members of the same Club! :roll: You should check how Hezbollah came into being. It was after the Israelis raped and slaughtered thousands of Palestinian refugees mainly children, women and old people in Lebanon ...... I seem to remember it was called The Shatillah Massacre(?). They vowed ‘... never again!’ :x
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:10 am

Reality doesn't make it right? Sure doesn't. We saw that with Syria.

Just kiss the Golan Heights good bye. Or start a war.

No one wants to be a member of the Hezbollah and Iranian Republican Guard club so they opt for New Zealand, Canada, EU and so forth - some of the best countries and places on the face of the planet, with fairness, equality and human rights. Great lifestyle and freedom for the people.

Our club sells itself really. make no mistake about it. Our club is the best. You live within our club and shit all over your own nest like a disgusting pig. Go live in the other club since you believe it is better.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:26 pm

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Our club sells itself really. make no mistake about it. Our club is the best. You live within our club and shit all over your own nest like a disgusting pig. Go live in the other club since you believe it is better.

FYI: Pigs are actually very clean animals ........ they never shit all over their own nest but always in the same place they reserve for the purpose! :wink:

The one thing I am grateful for, when dealing with your boastful and amusing posts, is that the arrogance, hatred and pure bile you exude is reflected in only a tiny percentage of the ordinary people, in all the countries you mention and more, whose opinions you are conceited enough to believe you represent, as being their views. :x

That fact anyone can prove is an example of your self-important delusions ............ :roll:

Take any MSM news sheet. Pick an article that agrees with your view, be it ‘RN escorts threatening Russian cruiser in the Channel’ or ‘RAF scrambled to intersect aggressive Russian air craft approaching UK air space’ or ‘Assad gasses his own people’ or the latest ‘Assad prevents sick children from leaving Ghouta’ ........ and then read the comments by ordinary readers of that news outlet. By far the overwhelming majority do not agree with the author and see the gist of the article as propaganda. The odd one that does agree with the author ........ just accuses everyone that disagrees, of being a ‘Russian Troll’ ..... usually they claim paid by the Kremlin.

Then take any of the Independent news outlets ....... those you mock :roll: ....... and look for the same story. Read it and it will give a different view but basically the same story. Then look at the comments section ..... comment’s by the ordinary readers of that article. A big difference will be noted in the comments of those readers, by far the largest percentage of readers AGREE with the author! In fact a responder that disagrees is quite rare but one that expounds his views, as you often post on here, I have never actually seen.

The first lot may never have read an article from an independent news site in their lives, but they use common sense to see through, the often very obvious, anomalies in the article. The second lot of readers have gone beyond just reading the MSM and look elsewhere for information. They are both the same sort of ordinary people and the vast majority would not agree with your laughable, bombastic and arrogant opinions. :lol:

How to tell if the MSM is deceiving you:

Today on the BBC World News, a short item on the fate of children in war zones.

In Ukraine the rebels were call ‘Pro-Russian Rebels’ and although it is their women and children being killed by government forces, the correspondent regarded them as the bad guys. Then, off to Syria where the rebels are called ‘anti-Assad’ rebels! Why the difference in the emphasis? Because in the Ukraine, although the separatist rebels are actually DEFENDING themselves against the government (which Trump has just agreed to arm with lethal weapons!) they are the bad guys. In Syria the foreign backed rebels fighting to overthrow the legitimate government, that just happen to be a proxy army of foreign fighters/Jihadi’s working for the US and their allies,they are regarded as the good guys?

That to me is a demonstration of propaganda ......... subliminal but effective when dealing with those that cannot think for themselves. :roll:

So please keep posting ...... it gives me something to do in the evenings, when I run out of reading Russian Propaganda and writing reports for the Kremlin! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:02 am

Another very big post that basically states nothing other than some personal nonsense against me after just merely stating the obvious - that Jerusalem is still the Capital of Israel. That jerusalem isn't up for any negotiation.

To state even more of the obvious AGAIN, is the fact that Israel will NEVER enter into any negotiations with Hezbollah or Iran under ANY circumstances for ANYTHING.

So that leaves everything in a State of Limbo. Of course the Israeli position isn't very difficult to understand. No one expects the Israelis to enter into any negotiations with the way things are at present.

As I said before he embarked on a tirade of vitriol that started off politely, it takes 2 to tango and enter into peaceful negotiations in good faith. There is no such will at the moment and you can't blame Israel for that under any circumstances.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:Another very big post that basically states nothing other than some personal nonsense against me after just merely stating the obvious - that Jerusalem is still the Capital of Israel. That jerusalem isn't up for any negotiation.

It is in contravention of international Law! It is not Israel's choice to make.

To state even more of the obvious AGAIN, is the fact that Israel will NEVER enter into any negotiations with Hezbollah or Iran under ANY circumstances for ANYTHING.

They have no choice but to 'negotiate' or they become more of a pariah State than they are already. Hezbollah and Iran do not enter the equation ..... it's Israel and Palestine with a moderator, which will likely be Russia. Israel without the US ..... is like the hole in a doughnut, without the doughnut! :lol:

So that leaves everything in a State of Limbo. Of course the Israeli position isn't very difficult to understand. No one expects the Israelis to enter into any negotiations with the way things are at present.

Why? Because they believe themselves to be above the Law? 128 members of the United Nations disagreed with the concept .... and just two thought it was wonderful! :lol:

As I said before he embarked on a tirade of vitriol that started off politely, it takes 2 to tango and enter into peaceful negotiations in good faith. There is no such will at the moment and you can't blame Israel for that under any circumstances.

I really don't think referring to me as a 'disgusting pig' is likely to earn any respect from me.and then me treating you without respect, should come as no surprise to you? :roll:

You seem well sold on the virtuous Israel ..... propaganda seems to work well with you. :roll:


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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:01 pm

Negotiate? With who? Iran and Hezbollah?

Mate get off your high horse because there is more chance of hell freezing over than Israel negotiating with terrorists. No one in their right mind would negotiate with these thugs and they are not the only one's to not want to.

And they are no Pariah State for that.

It takes 2 to tango in order to hold peaceful negotiations in good faith. At the moment, there is zero good faith, hence no will for negotiations or peace. That's not Israel's fault either.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:Negotiate? With who? Iran and Hezbollah?

Er..... try reading the post before commenting. :roll:

Mate get off your high horse because there is more chance of hell freezing over than Israel negotiating with terrorists. No one in their right mind would negotiate with these thugs and they are not the only one's to not want to.

Again! Read my post .......... Israel will have to negotiate with Palestinians ...... they need a 'intermediary/moderator' and the US has blown their impartiality so they cannot be trusted, the only other power with sufficient authority is Russia. Russia is a 'friend' of Israel and with the Palestinians. So keep the US's fingers out of it and a solution could be found.

And they are no Pariah State for that.

But they area pariah state! They are an undeclared nuclear power, they have committed genocide on the Palestinians, they practice apartheid, they are in breach of over a 100 UN resolutions ........... I mean how much more of a pariah state can they be?

It takes 2 to tango in order to hold peaceful negotiations in good faith. At the moment, there is zero good faith, hence no will for negotiations or peace. That's not Israel's fault either.

It is as much Israel's fault as anyone's! As you show with your own comments, they couldn't give a shit about what anybody else thinks is the right thing to do, because, backed by the US Zionists they believe that International Law only applies to everyone else! :roll:

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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:35 pm

There is no contravention of international law at all. Israel is under no obligation at all to enter into any negotiations with Hezbollah or Iran when they have no interest at all to enter into any negotiations in good faith with Israel or recognize it as a legitimate State.

Israel is under no obligation to return the Golan heights either.

As far as International law is concerned, it seems you are being very selective as to how you apply that.

It does not for instance apply to Crimea and United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ion_68/262

So sure, if Russia starts negotiating for the return of Crimea to Ukraine, Israel might think about it.

So go mow the grass!
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