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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:21 pm

I think I would place more trust in Russian assurances than I would any pleasantries and promises that came out of any US Administration ..... or any of their allies.

This article shows just how much US promises can be relied upon and shows just why Russia has every reason to see the NATO hoards on their border as a threat. The same story goes for all the promises made to North Korea since the cessation of hostilities. Then there was the UK's Falklands war ..... where were our staunch allies, the Yanks then? Remember the NATO creed “An attack on one is an attack on all!”. The US supported Argentina because they would use US oil companies to exploit the Malvinas oil/gas deposits. The US smelt money!!

If the SHTF for Australia the US would put ‘America first’ not Australia ...... you are just ‘useful idiots’. If it was a toss-up between avoiding a nuclear conflict with China/Russia by sacrificing any defence treaty with the Aussies and thus throwing them to the wolves ..... guess who would win?

You are a very bad judge of character and appear to have a mindset pre-programmed and running on Auto ..... no further inputs required. The problem is that you are stuck in USSR mode, the McCarthy era in the US where there was a ’commie’ under every bed!

Gorbachev trusted the US, and their failure to honour their side of the bargain is now coming into the light. This could well start a conflict that would involve Europe. NATO at the behest of the US is poking the Bear ........ a dangerous thing to do! :x

So the limits on expanding NATO to the East WAS agreed in writing after all and yet people like you called it fake news or just ignored it? Things that are coming to the light, almost daily, is why the US is losing credibility and why the Russians and many independent states, will never tolerate a world dominated by the US. Here is the evidence as to how the US lied to and deceived Russia and still are, these are 30 official documents from the time that have been hidden away .........

How the US swindled Russia. – by Eric Zuesse

Due to a historic data-dump on December 10th, the biggest swindle that occurred in the 20th Century (or perhaps ever) is now proven as a historical fact.

This swindle was done by the U.S. Government, against the Government and people of Russia, and it continues today and keeps getting worse under every U.S. President. It was secretly started by U.S. President George Herbert Walker Bush on the night of 24 February 1990; and, unless it becomes publicly recognized and repudiated so that it can stop, a nuclear war between the U.S. and all of NATO on one side, versus Russia on the other, is inevitable unless Russia capitulates before then, which would be vastly less likely than such a world-ending nuclear war now is.

http://theduran.com/how-the-us-swindled-russia/



........ and you would put your faith in an American assurance? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:10 pm

Well, it didn't take too long for Trump to punish Turkey after it voted with the 128 nations in the UNGA to counter Trump's wishes to have Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Trump is sending additional weapons to the YPG in Syria in the amount close to $400 million USD worth. This was after Trump told Erdogan on the phone 2 weeks earlier that no more weapons will be given to the YPG and the idea of the YPG getting weapons was a crazy idea. $400 million USD worth of weapons is a lot of weapons in anyone's book. I think Trump has declared "war" on Turkey via the YPG. Who's next?
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:33 pm

Kikapu wrote:Well, it didn't take too long for Trump to punish Turkey after it voted with the 128 nations in the UNGA to counter Trump's wishes to have Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Trump is sending additional weapons to the YPG in Syria in the amount close to $400 million USD worth. This was after Trump told Erdogan on the phone 2 weeks earlier that no more weapons will be given to the YPG and the idea of the YPG getting weapons was a crazy idea. $400 million USD worth of weapons is a lot of weapons in anyone's book. I think Trump has declared "war" on Turkey via the YPG. Who's next?


Yes probably the 2 things are related and certainly its adding fuel to the fire and further dampening relations between USA and Turkey.

Turkey should get off their high horse. The USA isn't the only country that has an embassy in Jerusalem and there will be more to come especially now. Another thing, they are illegally occupying foreign land, whereas Jerusalem isn't under any occupation at all.

The YPG is also our ally within Syria occupying a substantial part of Syria and the coalition is strengthening their military in order to hold their ground and perhaps even become an Autonomous State and a US/Coalition client.

No one has any faith in Pootin or Errdog-an.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:10 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Well, it didn't take too long for Trump to punish Turkey after it voted with the 128 nations in the UNGA to counter Trump's wishes to have Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Trump is sending additional weapons to the YPG in Syria in the amount close to $400 million USD worth. This was after Trump told Erdogan on the phone 2 weeks earlier that no more weapons will be given to the YPG and the idea of the YPG getting weapons was a crazy idea. $400 million USD worth of weapons is a lot of weapons in anyone's book. I think Trump has declared "war" on Turkey via the YPG. Who's next?


Yes probably the 2 things are related and certainly its adding fuel to the fire and further dampening relations between USA and Turkey.

Turkey should get off their high horse. The USA isn't the only country that has an embassy in Jerusalem and there will be more to come especially now. Another thing, they are illegally occupying foreign land, whereas Jerusalem isn't under any occupation at all.

The YPG is also our ally within Syria occupying a substantial part of Syria and the coalition is strengthening their military in order to hold their ground and perhaps even become an Autonomous State and a US/Coalition client.

No one has any faith in Pootin or Errdog-an.


Jerusalem is not occupied land? Really? I think you will find that most of Israel is on occupied Palestinian land and land annexed from other countries. It is only you, Trump and Netanyahu that falls for the ' A land with no people, for a people with no land!' that 'God gave to his chosen people.' stories. You wouldn't get away with that excuse at the Limassol Land Registry! :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Cap » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:44 pm

I think you will find that most of Israel is on occupied Palestinian land and land annexed from other countries


By other countries you mean Arab states.
And why were they occupying 'Palestine'?

You see where this going?
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:44 pm

Cap wrote:
I think you will find that most of Israel is on occupied Palestinian land and land annexed from other countries


By other countries you mean Arab states.
And why were they occupying 'Palestine'?

You see where this going?


I am referring to The Golan Heights legally part of Syria (which just happens to be the source for most of the water in Palestine, as well as gas/oil), Southern Lebanon and Gaza’s economic maritime zone, which also has gas and oil in large quantities.

BTW: Paphitis ..... there are no countries with Embassies in Jerusalem! According to Wikipedia:

“The countries which operate Consulates to Jerusalem, generally do not regard them as diplomatic missions to Israel or Palestinian Authority, but as diplomatic missions to Jerusalem as corpus separatum. Most of the countries with consulates in Jerusalem have separate embassies in Tel Aviv that are accredited to Israel."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in_Israel
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Cap » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:31 pm

legally part of Syria


So what claim do the Palestinians have on a legal part of Syria?
Golan Heights dude. Syrian territory lost during the Arab-Israeli war.

You said it.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:42 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Cap wrote:
I think you will find that most of Israel is on occupied Palestinian land and land annexed from other countries


By other countries you mean Arab states.
And why were they occupying 'Palestine'?

You see where this going?


I am referring to The Golan Heights legally part of Syria (which just happens to be the source for most of the water in Palestine, as well as gas/oil), Southern Lebanon and Gaza’s economic maritime zone, which also has gas and oil in large quantities.

BTW: Paphitis ..... there are no countries with Embassies in Jerusalem! According to Wikipedia:

“The countries which operate Consulates to Jerusalem, generally do not regard them as diplomatic missions to Israel or Palestinian Authority, but as diplomatic missions to Jerusalem as corpus separatum. Most of the countries with consulates in Jerusalem have separate embassies in Tel Aviv that are accredited to Israel."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in_Israel


You can forget the Golan Heights. The Syrians will never see The Golan heights again. The elevated topography is of critical importance to Israel's Security from the battle hardened terrorist Hezbollah thugs and Iranian Republican Guard Forces and their Assad lapdogs in Syria.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:41 pm

Cap wrote:
legally part of Syria


So what claim do the Palestinians have on a legal part of Syria?
Golan Heights dude. Syrian territory lost during the Arab-Israeli war.

You said it.


I am referring to those areas of Palestine that the Israelis took by force (war) in 1967. I believe that Lebanon already has had there slice returned but that still leaves the Golan, The West Bank taken from Jordan and all the Palestinian lands and maritime areas. I don't see where you are coming from ..... the Palestinians only want Palestine as it was pre-1967. Even at that definition Israel stole much more land than was initially going to be Israel as proposed by the UN.
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Re: The US recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:45 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Cap wrote:
legally part of Syria


So what claim do the Palestinians have on a legal part of Syria?
Golan Heights dude. Syrian territory lost during the Arab-Israeli war.

You said it.


I am referring to those areas of Palestine that the Israelis took by force (war) in 1967. I believe that Lebanon already has had there slice returned but that still leaves the Golan, The West Bank taken from Jordan and all the Palestinian lands and maritime areas. I don't see where you are coming from ..... the Palestinians only want Palestine as it was pre-1967. Even at that definition Israel stole much more land than was initially going to be Israel as proposed by the UN.


Golan Heights are Israeli territory now.

There is zero chance that it would be handed over to Hezbollah and Iranian Republican Guard.

And no, only the PLO want the 1967 borders as they were and to recognize Israel. Hezbollah and Hamaz are not interested in the 1967 borders at all. In addition, no one ever expects or requires of Israel to enter into any negotiations with the likes of Hezbollah and Hamaz.

Apeace settlement is a 2 way street. There can be no negotiations in any good faith whatsoever with the likes of Hamaz and Hezbollah. It's not on!
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